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To: Jamey who wrote (32492)2/9/2001 8:00:42 PM
From: 2MAR$  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 39621
 
Well Santiago , things would go more smoothly between people,
if they practiced more reserve and tolerance ,
listened more and tried to see the God within....

I will respect and defend anyone's right to believe in
their own idea of a Savior or Messiah as long
as they do not try to tell me that
their beliefs or
their words & scriptures
are the only truths.

If you say "I have a truth " , and wish
to share it with me, then I will be happy to
listen . If you wish to point out the specific
blessings , positive events or ways your own life has
been made more enriched by those truths , then there
is some value added to our conversation. For I can
then try to understand the tangibility of your claims
made real in your own life.

But if you say "I have the only truth",
which is the truth of your Bible , then you
have overstepped the civility boundries
(maybe not intentionally)
between human beings.

You know that the "Scripture " you hold dear
is the truth for you , for it is what you know
and grew up surrrounded with , and naturally
were drawn to as your life changed and
you sought deeper
answers.

But this process of finding something missing
in one's life , and the need to search more deeply
is already known of , practised with deep devotion and written extensively about
in other religions, like Hinduism and Buddhism
that do not feel the need to come to your house and tell you that your
beliefs are false. <g>

They have their interpretation of Life, Suffering , Love and the Creator , and you have yours . Funny how God made his prescence known everywhere on Earth , thru many great Teachers, yet you think you are the only ones who have been shown they way...

This is amazingly inconsiderate , even though you think you are doing "God's" work , you are wrong. And will always be wrong in this, no matter how your elders have interpreted the scripture and Gospels for you.

I am sorry Santiago , but Christians must learn
that their own beliefs of "God's Laws" ,
a divine redeemer in the form of a great Teacher,
and a world of salvation , and a soul that
can be reconnected to God, is not unique to them
but rather a concept that has been present
before them or your oldest prophets.

This is complimentary in it's essence ,
and Buddhist and Hindu's are not at war with
Christians per/se....they just wish to worship
and seek "purity" and "truth" thru their
own direct means , which you should try to understand
before you condemn.

(Have your friends and yourself take courses in comparitive
religion , as a way to replace the urge to drink , perhaps seriously )

I'll always enjoy deeply when a Shalom makes posts
of the most refined and spiritual passages from the
scriptures, and will take their meanings into myself
and be reminded of God's love.

But any use of your scriptures in todays world
to justify the
violation of the rights and beliefs
of others to seek their
own salvation and worship their own God and Holy
Teachers ,
I and many others of worth and means
will resist , denounce and
defend those who are assailed from
Christians who think they have the right to do this.

I see that you are in the " recovery from alcohol" area.
It is a killer of souls and minds , yet so accepted in our society . The use of Alcohol has destroyed bodies, lives and probably led many leaders in the past to enter into violent wars and conflicts that led to the
deaths of 1000's.

I will not tell you to become a Buddhist or a Hindu , or that they are greater than Christianity , Islam , or Judaism
but I would suggest to you that they are far far older .

Buddha was known all throughout the world as the Savior and Bringer of light...and in those societies where it is
the main system of belief , there is almost no trace of Alcoholism or great substance abuse.

You might want to investigate it . And the same
is true for Hinduism which produced many of the greatest
saints in the 20th century , like Ghandi ,
who did greater miracles than Jesus did . But Hinduism
and Buddhism are very much alive and not going away,
so Christianity will just have to learn to adapt....and save themselves.

Unless you really believe that men walk upon water....then I cannot really converse on some levels with you.

then it is time to inform you that you are being
farfetched and mistaken . You have found a truth
that is Christianity , for that was how ou were raised and all you have known . It is no