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Politics : Sharks in the Septic Tank -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: Lane3 who wrote (5260)	2/9/2001 1:24:27 PM
From: epicure	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 82486

>We (humans) have an almost infinite capacity to rationalize any evil we can imagine, and we use Freedom and Reason to do it. < OOOH OOOH OOOH Don't forget religion! Your statement SHOULD read: We (humans) have an almost infinite capacity to rationalize any evil we can imagine, and we use Freedom and/or Reason and/or RELIGION, to do it. ROFL- we humans will use anything at hand to rationalize- we're like that. Thank you, thank you very much.

To: Lane3 who wrote (5260)	2/9/2001 2:55:48 PM
From: Greg or e	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 82486

Hi Karen I'm sorry, I think I miss-spelt your name in my former post. Human cloning is a very interesting subject. I'm not convinced that it is evil per say. It is cloning for the purpose of human experimentation that I find particularly repugnant. Human life has been cheapened by all of this. Abortion was only the beginning of the bloodletting. Already I hear of proposals to allow for the killing of the very old, the very young and the very sick. How long will it be till that will extend to the not so old the not so young and the not so sick. Perhaps these Scientific wonder boys will offer their own children to be the objects of these experiments. Of course all this has already been tried in Germany. will we never learn? Just because something can be done does not mean it "should" be done. It seems to me the pace of technological advancement has outstripped the ethical guidance that is so important. It reminds me of a little kid who wants to run ahead of his parents. It might be fine in an open field where you can see danger ahead, but in crowded city their is a good possibility that such behavior will result in disaster. Pandoras genetic box has been flung open and I am uneasy about what that means for our future. Have a great day. Greg

To: Lane3 who wrote (5260)	2/9/2001 5:16:46 PM
From: TimF	Respond to of 82486

I infer from your post that you think human cloning is evil. KAren, I know you didn't ask me, but I don't think cloning is evil. I do however really disagree with the English scientists' justification for it - "The Scientists defended their Right to conduct these experiments based on the fact that no embryo was kept alive more than fourteen days. " (from Greg's post). To me that is justifying doing something by doing something unjust and unjustified. I would have no problem if the clone embryos lived to become adults, but I do have a problem with destroying them after 14days. Even if I didn't have a problem with destroying embryos I can't see how I would think the destruction justifies the cloning (not that I think it really needs justification). I guess the argument is that since there is no visible consequences from the cloning then it is ok, but to me the English scientists have the whole thing backwards. Tim