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Politics : Sharks in the Septic Tank -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: Greg or e who wrote (5314)	2/10/2001 8:36:00 AM
From: Solon	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 82486

That's easy, just redefine everything you do and say, as good. Maybe God is not dead, quick, go look in the mirror and say hello. Have a good (Whatever that means to you) day. Do you not find anything hypocritical about your defense of a cluster of cells...and your devotion to a Father that murdered almost all of His children time and time again, often with torture? A Father that loved his children in the most unequal manner imaginable. Despised His daughters and most of His sons; Disemboweled them, made them eat dung, ordered the extinction of community after community of His children? Did the Father you are so devoted to ever mention the specialness of embryonic cell clusters? No, He did not. Because He was too busy telling Moses and Aaron how to dip animal blood on their ears and toes so that they could impress the tribe to give them food in return for supernatural protection. If He is your role model for morality--pity us. I do not accept your declaration of my rights, duties, responsibilities--as declared by your God. I don't follow His rules for curing leprosy with dead birds; And I can comment on abortion, which was something beneath the awareness of these ancient males. Perhaps the women had a vague awareness, but we don't hear from them, do we? Once again, my position on abortion is not a flippant one. The right to ones body is fundamental, and people must live with the choices they make--but they are their choices--not yours.

To: Greg or e who wrote (5314)	2/10/2001 10:28:46 AM
From: E	Respond to of 82486

<<Why do you equate a sentient, living, human being, regardless of age, with a piece of dead skin? >> Sentiency is important, isn't it, in distinguishing between what is "human" (a category that would include fingernails and tumors), and what is "a human being." Sentient meaning "consciously perceiving," you and I surely agree that a fertilized egg is not sentient. This is a simple point, but simple as it is, it is not one everybody on the anti-choice side understands. (I recognize that there are those who, unlike you, have religiously-determined definitions of "a human being," and sentiency doesn't enter in to those, only metaphysics.)