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To: Machaon who wrote (391)	2/9/2001 4:50:53 PM
From: epicure	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 948

I am with you. I am for letting women choose whether or not to kill their unborn children fetuses or whatever. The pictures? don't bother me a bit. I feel sorry for the people who might be swayed by the sight of them to take on a lifelong commitment to a child because of a silly picture. But that's about the extent of my feelings about pictures of aborted fetuses/ children- or whatever you want to call them. In my opinion there are many things worse than death. Living with a very abusive parent, for example. Severe neglect- I think that can often be worse. Of course not everyone may agree- and of course those people are free never to have an abortion. I wouldn't force anyone to have an abortion nor would I force anyone not to have one. I have opinions about when it might be good to have one, just as I have opinions about when it might be better to go ahead and have a child- but once having given my opinion, I wouldn't want to rudely belabor the point, or substitute my judgment for any other woman's judgment. That would be hubris- imo.

To: Machaon who wrote (391)	2/9/2001 5:04:10 PM
From: Neenny	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 948

Robert, I have much I would like to discuss with you... I do have some questions for you. Do you believe there to be a Post-Abortion Stress disorder?? When I presented this as a concern for some women who have had abortions, it was just scoffed at. I did read on the other thread where someone commented on how many variables may effect this condition. I do not dispute those variables on the basis that other factors may contribute to Post-Abortoin Stress disorder. But like wise believe that there are many medical conditions that have more than one variable in what causes the manifestation of that condition, yet often there is a specific event that can be pinpointed as the specific causation. I have spoken with Abortion providers who acknowledge this, and comment on how their clincs deal with it. The information is available on the web, from the well known abortion provider.

To: Machaon who wrote (391)	2/10/2001 5:34:15 PM
From: Tom Clarke	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 948

Let's have a frank discussion on fetal killing. I am pro abortion, pro choice and pro life. You start this frank discussion and I'll join in. Thanks for your honesty. You may think it's generalizing, but I think the author of that column is correct when he says that pro abortion people shrink from the word "kill." You are one of few that won't do that. The shading of language by both sides has always interested me, but it seems to me that the Left has been far more egregious in their twisting of words. I think Partial Birth Abortion accurately describes the procedure. Compare that with the hyper clinical term the left uses. It isn't generalizing to say that pictures are considered taboo. I think there's even a law, I believe in Connecticut, that prohibits showing those in a public place. So much for the Left's love of the 1st amendment. For balance, I will take a poke at my friends on the Right. To call yourself pro-life but be in favor of the death penalty strikes me as incongruous.