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Non-Tech : ECGM - E-COMMERCE GROUP INC Portrait of a pump and dump -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: JAMES who wrote (26)	2/10/2001 1:55:56 PM
From: StockDung	Respond to of 32

Internet Domain Registrars WHOIS Server v.1.3 Registrant: E-Commerce Inc 5773 Woodway #304 Houston, Tx 77057 US (PH) 713-785-1556 Domain Name: dvd8050.com Administrative Contact: Dunvale, Robert (DURO32) sales@250dvd.com 5773 Woodway #304 Houston, Tx 77057 US (PH) 713-785-1556 Technical Contact: Dunvale, Robert (DURO22) sales@dvd8050.com 5773 Woodway #304 Houston, Tx 77057 US (PH) 713-785-1556 Billing Contact: Dunvale, Robert (DURO31) sales@dvd8050.com 5773 Woodway #304 Houston, Tx 77057 US (PH) 713-785-1556 Registration Date: 19-Jul-2000 19:58:56 Expiration Date: 19-Jul-2001 19:58:56 Domain servers in listed order: NS1.SOG.NET 208.195.144.4

To: JAMES who wrote (26)	2/10/2001 2:02:43 PM
From: StockDung	Respond to of 32

[H] Home DVD Player Suggestions (MP3&MV-free?) ciper ciper@chez.com Wed, 29 Nov 2000 10:45:53 -0800 Previous message: [H] Home DVD Player Suggestions (MP3&MV-free?) Next message: [H] Home DVD Player Suggestions (MP3&MV-free?) Messages sorted by: [ date ] [ thread ] [ subject ] [ author ] -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Also it seems to be an american company thats running the site. from whois E-Commerce Inc Dunvale, Robert (DURO32) sales@250dvd.com 5773 Woodway #304 Houston, Tx 77057 US (PH) 713-785-1556 Domain Name: DVD8050.COM Im getting interested in this if its not a scam, check out the portable one for only 699! > isn't that HIGHLY illegal? > > -ben > > At 12:18 PM 11/29/2000 -0600, you wrote: > >Hrmm... found this site using Google > > > >http://www.dvd8050.com/ > > > >The Dulux DVD 2000 featuring the SEGA Master System! (heh) > > > >-Tharin O. > > > >> > >This just came to me today and caught my eye. Seems to have all the > >> > >features you want and you call a 1-800 number (in states I assume): > >> > > > >> > >The 8050+ DVD PLAYER!!! > >> > >PLAYS ALL DVDS, Mp3's and VCDS! > > > > > > > google.com

To: JAMES who wrote (26)	2/10/2001 2:23:26 PM
From: StockDung	Respond to of 32

PERSONALLY I THINK EVERYBODY WHO HAS'NT RECIEVED THERE DVD, SHOULD GO TO THERE POLICE STATION AND REPORT A THEFT AND A FRAUD!!!! DULUX SHOULD EITHER GIVE US OUR MONEY BACK OR FACE THE CONSEQENCES!!!! WHAT ABOUT ALL THE INTEREST THERE EARNING ON OUR MONEY WHILE WERE ALL WAITING? WE SHOULD GET OUR MONEY BACK AND A DVD PLAYER FOR FREE JUST FOR ALL THE AGRO AND DISAPOINTMENT EVERYBODY HAS FACED!!! I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW WHY!!!! WE HAVE'NT HAD A REFUND, SO WE CAN MAKE OUR OWN MIND UP WHEN THEY ARE AVAILABLE TO WHETHER WE WANT THEM OR NOT? PERSONALLY IF I COULD GET MY MONEY BACK, ID TELL THEM TO STICK IT WHERE THE SUN DOE'SNT SHINE!!!! UP THERE A**E!!!!! I WANT KNOW (LIKE THE REST OF YOU) EITHER WHEN WILL I RECIEVE MY MONEY BACK AND OR WHEN WILL I RECEIVE A DVD PLAYER???? AND I WANT TO KNOW WHEN??????? j hesketh dvd8050.com -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Im writing this letter to express my dissapointed in the handling of their issues. I purchased my DVD player in the beginning of Novemeber and like many of you all have not received anything. I have emailed Scott numerous times and the 1 or 2 times he has replied he just said he will look into to it or promise it would be delivered by christmas. Now you might think that $250 is not too much money but I come from Australia and with our crap exchange rate it has cost us over $600 for this product. If the company claims that it has a customs issue than thats fine but please let us know! You will probably have far less disgruntled customers if you would just let us know what is going on instead of lying or not responding at all. Its bad customer service. Being a customer service manager I know how hard it can be but if issues arise like this I always told the customer what was going on...... I hope that this can be resolved soon dvd8050.com -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I ordered the player in early November. Of course, like the rest of you, I haven't gotten mine yet either. But I'm willing to keep on waiting just a little longer. This is nothing new to me. I've had this same thing happen with other overseas imports. Who's to blame? The GREEDY entertainment industry & authorities! They created all these different ZONES & FORMATS. You have TWO questionable items in ONE package A player that is set-up the way they ALL should be made! The GAMES or SOFTWARE? Well.........if that is the issue? Why can't DULUX/E-Commerse be allowed to just SEPARATE the SOFTWARE from the DVD PLAYERS & at least give the units to us? I think we all could wait longer for the games.........right?!! Just like anything else that's good for the rest of the WORLD........`someone or somebody' HERE always wants YOU to NOT have something that may undercut their intentions to control you! Hmmmmm? Cheers, Greg Edited by - HOFT on 02/08/2001 08:58:14 dvd8050.com -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- What good is a message board. The company hasn't posted any messages besides the welcome. Messages from other dissatisfied customers don't help me watch DVD's in my home. A DVD player does. Since I don't have a DVD player, this message board is useless, just like company stealing money from trusting customers. Christian Strama dvd8050.com -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I ordered mine on december 1 and paid by paypal but still haven't got it yet.. Sent Zillion of e-mails but still nothing.. Called the #800 everyday hoping that somebody will pick up not hang up the phone.. The website didn't help at all.. it only asked you to wait and wait and wait.... How long are we supposed to wait.. At least they should give us info of how behind they are or what is their current situation with the problem... I hope they are reading this and are doing something about it (like give us info, dvd player or $$$ back) Rudy Handojo dvd8050.com -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Yes, I am also waiting for my order, but the mere existence of this forum, allows everyone in the world to see what is going on. Why would any business advertize the fact that they suck big time? Clearly someone is trying to resolve a very difficult issue. Try to deal with governments sometime. dvd8050.com