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To: Dr Mike who wrote (4595)	2/10/2001 1:15:49 AM
From: EUGENETUCK	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 4908

Very interesting and informative post, Dr. Mike. Of course, the bit about another company beating Saab to the punch will give us much to speculate about.

To: Dr Mike who wrote (4595)	2/10/2001 6:14:34 AM
From: John M Connolly	Respond to of 4908

Dr. Mike: what an interesting post - a couple of quick comments as I am short of time. I totally agree that OE's management are likely brilliant engineers who have invented this technology and have not yet figured out how to sell it. The Honda /Sundiro/OE situation is as I expected, they do not know if it is good or bad - yet. Which by the way is contrary to another report that it would have no effect on OE. An interesting comment, that Honda did not have 2S under their own name, here is a link about the Honda Scooby a 50cc scooter I do not know if it is 2S. auto.com Will Saab be the first to introduce OCP - I would like to think that there will be another company - but I am a little reluctant to belive until I see the product. I am not against OE having an engineering culture and it being a paradise for totally committed engineers and their endeavors - it is just that they do not need to run the company and they must realize that we need a sales and marketing program. Furthermore, shareholder value needs to feature somewhere in the set of company goals. Thanks for the good post. Oh as to the Yahoo thread - the repartee is pretty good , if you do not take it too seriously. John

To: Dr Mike who wrote (4595)	2/10/2001 9:57:02 AM
From: Maverick	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 4908

Thanks for taking the time to type all that Dr. Mike. That was no small undertaking, and we all greatly appreciate it. The fact that you shared items both encouraging and not not only disputes accusations that those who are "pro OE", are censoring SI and the club; it also addresses the "loophole" category some are trying to create for themselves. If you are concerned about certain aspects of the company, you either limit or reduce your position. But if you are finding endless problems with the company, particularly the management and particularly over a long period of time, YOU SELL YOUR WHOLE POSITION! There's no way I'd be harboring massive concerns about a company, year after year, and own any of it, much less waste my time posting on boards about it. Posting on boards only has two legitimate purposes: information and influence. Most of the supporters of OE spend most of their time exchanging information about the progress of the company - links or cut and paste stories, personal discussions with company employees such as yours, etc. But most of the critical posts are not evidence of company failures, instead opinions criticizing management. Those posts are about influencing others, and in a negative way. Again, motive is the issue. I don't recall seeing links to stories touting the superiority of Ficht over OptiMax, nor HPDFI over OCP, etc. It's not like we're seeing hundreds of thousands of HPDFI cars driving around everywhere and no OCP cars. THAT would demonstrate failure by OE. Until OE's competitors have succeeded, OE hasn't failed.