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To: Justin C who wrote (58561)	2/11/2001 6:06:48 PM
From: epicure	Respond to of 71178

I am BANNED from the RWET always have been, since inception. And I do not appreciate being posted to by people who post stuff like this: To:James McGowan who wrote (2827) From: Ish Saturday, Jan 20, 2001 8:02 PM View Replies (2) \| Respond to of 4716 <<During a brief exchange she and I had in the LWP Ring, it became apparent that she has no use for those of the masculine persuasion.>> People, people, people. X is nutz. When you argue with her, in her mind she is always right. She gets you upset and that is her goal so she wins. Think small x and ignore her. Only the post I was looking for was much worse. It is just yucky to have people post to you conversationally who say this kind of crap in other places. Feel free to disagree.

To: Justin C who wrote (58561)	2/11/2001 6:20:07 PM
From: Ish	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 71178

That was me. After lurking The Left Wing Porch I up and said she was nutz. That was my opinion. Actually I was trying to tone down the hatred against her. I see she has reproduced the offending post. Off to more important things now...

To: Justin C who wrote (58561)	2/11/2001 6:46:02 PM
From: Rambi	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 71178

Dear Justin, and whoever cares,EDIT-- JUstin- I shouldn't even have posted this to you, who is unfailingly polite and exemplifies everything I love about DAR people....you just were there! I'm breaking my rules and getting involved in something that doesn't directly concern me- which I usually try to avoid. But since I am now bordering on either shutting down DAR completely or moderating it, I'll go ahead with this.. There have been some things happening lately that are just flat out ugly at SI, and a lot of really terrible things have been said by people who used to be at least cordial to each other. It has even invaded DAR which used to be a place where everyone was treated civilly, if not always with great affection. It has been really distressing to me to read some of the things written about X at the RW thread and particularly by people who post here. I saw the posts written by Haqi, Ish and others about her that she's referring to at the time they were written and was sickened. I'm sorry that she has seen them, and I can understand why she feels outraged that Ish would then post to her as if nothing had ever been said. The ranting against X was disgusting and it went far beyond what intelligent and mature people should tolerate. I will never feel the same about many of those people and Haqi is one of them. X is a good friend of mine, I will go on record here that I will always defend her, even if I don't agree with her. Especially here. X is always blunt, honest and loyal to a fault. I know that she frequently irritates people with her seemingly cold and rational statements, but she seldom comments on things that aren't true. Perhaps I should have spoken up the last time she got into it here with Haqi and Lewis- who, btw, was a total stranger here (well, I had no idea who it was anyway)and yet came in and felt free to discuss sex and then use foul language at X- with no apology to anyone. X knows that I dislike the kind of sexual conversation they were having (most everyone who pays attention should know it) and she spoke up. I didn't because I dislike thinking that I need to protect the spirit that was DAR. I always credit people with being sensitive and considerate enough to know when they are out of bounds. I was wrong. So I have now decided that I will speak up. If people want to speak destructively about anyone in a place where they can't defend themselves, someone who is a member of the DAR "family", then I will no longer welcome them here. And while I would hate to do it, I'll request that DAR at least have my name taken off it, if I no longer feel it reflects the spirit that has exemplified it for four years and those who want to pursue their own agenda on it are welcome to it. Because I'm sick of it all.