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To: Mac Con Ulaidh who wrote (5603)	2/13/2001 1:37:31 PM
From: The Philosopher	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 82486

Certainly you can draw your own conclusions about my post. As I am entitled to draw my own conclusions about X's post. It is illogical for you to claim the right to draw what conclusions you want from my posts while criticizing my drawing conclusions from others' posts. While you stated that my conclusions were illogical and false, you didn't offer a single fact in support of that charge. And while you acknowledged in your prior post that I had knowledge from past interactions about X, you illogically charged that my conclusions were drawn only from the discussion of inherent morality. Your post is a polemic, not a discussion. But let me get back on the track of the discussion and address your point specifically. You wrote: "Yes, slavery could be seen as moral if society chose to do so." Please specify for me how broadly the "society" you refer to must choose to view slavery as moral. All of the society? A simple majority? If a society has a population of 1 million free persons and 500,000 slaves, and all the free persons think slavery is moral and all the slaves think it isn't, has society chosen to view slavery as moral? More specifically, If it could be shown that in 1800 in this country a majority of the population believed our slavery of blacks was moral, is it your position that slavery in the US would then have been moral?

To: Mac Con Ulaidh who wrote (5603)	2/13/2001 2:09:11 PM
From: Greg or e	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 82486

Well that's mighty white of you. "Yes, slavery could be seen as moral if society chose to do so" I thought this was supposed to be a leftist thread. Oh the irony of it all. Liberals, espousing the moral neutrality of slavery, and genocide, over the howling protests of confessed conservatives. Are there no Africans or Jews here? Bigotry is a high price to pay for ones philosophical consistency. "To believe what I have just said, and I do believe it, does* reflect my own feelings about slavery,..."* I don't want to misrepresent you. does it or doesn't it? If not, why not? Are you content to see slavery happen as long as it's not in your country? How about as long as it's not in your State? Didn't you guys resolve this in the Civil War? I'm sorry, "not in my back yard" just doesn't cut it with me. Human rights are the direct result of being made in the image a Holy and Just, God. Take that away and we have no objective basis, to stand up to the slave owners of this world, as both you and X have amply illustrated for us. Thank-you. Have a Free day, enjoy it while you can. Greg