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To: Ahda who wrote (1025)	2/13/2001 3:25:58 PM
From: ahhaha	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 24758

I beg to differ Start begging. No matter what you are doing in construction the end cost is foolishly thought of as reduction of price of products. Only among the foolish. You dont have the labor flexibility to much unless you start playing games which isn't to smart if you have an accident you carry insurance and they won't want to carry you. You make my case. It is a mickey mouse thing where client can't see the value of a costly flooring and you know darn well that you are trying to build to last not refurbish every two years. No one can afford to build to last, since that puts the bid out of reach and doesn't win the project. Methods of application differ tremendously too one more costly up front can be cost savings a few years down the road. Just ask the person who tired to take off wallcovering laid directly on plaster board. Here we go with cost the low bid lost again no thought up front to a take a close look underneath. Gazillion hours on the job. Surprisingly, the down stream savings are generally not worth it. It's better to build mediocre quality so that it can be torn down soon and replaced by something in the future whose mediocrity will be better then the mediocrity of now. Besides, short lifetime means more jobs.

To: Ahda who wrote (1025)	2/15/2001 12:54:04 PM
From: GraceZ	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 24758

you know darn well that you are trying to build to last not refurbish every two years. Commercial interior construction is not built to last primarily because it has an extremely short usable life due to the nature of business trends, it is designed to be temporary. Businesses tend to restructure and move on a much faster schedule than in the past, it is foolish to sink a lot of costs into an interior because then you are married to your building. The need to be flexible is paramount. Commercial carpet and flooring is far superior and more expensive than that which is offered to the consumer, but this is because it has to handle a much heavier use cycle in it's short lifetime. Believe it or not, if there is one place where materials science has made tremendous strides it is with flooring. They have the ability to make flooring that will last several lifetimes, but it would be as senseless as building a car that would last several lifetimes because taste changes, most people prefer the latest fashion. People in my area have even started to refer to existing homes as "used" the way you would differentiate a used car from a new one. If you think new construction has created more maintenance than I have to say that perhaps you have never owned a nice old traditional house. I have owned several and while I prefer the look of an old house there is no comparison in maintenance costs to a newer one. New houses can have completely maintenance free windows and doors (ever re-glaze a double hung nine over nine wooden window?) and completely maintenance free siding and soffets. My current house has almost no paintable surfaces on the exterior.