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To: d:oug who wrote (63754)2/15/2001 7:27:19 AM
From: russwinter  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 116753
 
When it's midnight, do you know where your gold is?
Excerpted from miningweb.com:

What is not getting much serious attention – outside of conspiracy circles – is the short position, said to exceed 10,000 tonnes (four years of production or one third of all official book holdings) that is irretrievable. The short position has built up as a result of central bank gold loans where the metal remains on the books but which has in reality been consumed and is not readily available to be returned. This has created an effective "double-claim" on every ounce lent. Where speculative derivatives are layered on top of this paper gold, the double claim can multiply logarithmically. This is the heart of the excess supply problem.

The short position has been easy to manufacture and keep puffing up, but cannot be deflate without violence.

The central banks appear, on paper, to be in a position to cover the short position in an emergency, but the fact is a large portion of the holdings are entirely notional and paper committments written over long exited metal probably exceeds liquid supplies many, many times over. Milling Stanley agrees that current gold reporting is a Sword of Damocles. "We would like to see [official] gold holdings qualitatively separated." A recent WGC commissioned study by Jessica Cross concluded that the central banks have lent at least 5,000 tonnes which is still reported as "on hand" when it should be accounted for as gold receivables.

In an outstanding commentary on the subject by Douglas Pollitt, of his namesake Toronto broking firm, he says: "An ever-larger supply of lent gold is needed to fill the widening supply-demand gap and to ensure that the market remains depressed and investors remain disinclined to call in existing gold loans."

He highlights three conditions that could turn a "tinderbox" market into a raging gold inferno - a drought of official sector lending; faster reductions of new supply; and US dollar instability. One is sufficient for ignition, three would cause a wildfire that turns 1980 into an amateur stage production.

There's no middle ground in the debate on gold, but Pollitt leaves the sage advice for last. "Precious metal companies are...valued like options on the gold price, like portfolio insurance. Be positioned or be left out."

Milling Stanley says it another, more eloquent way: "When it's midnight, do you know where your gold is?"



To: d:oug who wrote (63754)2/16/2001 7:12:05 AM
From: d:oug  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 116753
 
GATA News - South Africa, Don't Worry, Inclined Against Bailouts.

New treasury secretary seems inclined against bailouts.
Criticism of GATA in South Africa Business Report, but don't worry.
GATA chairman's full report on his visit to South Africa.

To keep interested parties advised of developments involving GATA
and the lawsuit it has brought, and others it may bring, against those
it accuses of illegal collusion to control the price and supply of gold,
other commodities, and related securities, the email group located at
groups.yahoo.com was created to supplement
the Gold Anti-Trust Action Committee's informational web site
of gata.org

Membership in groups.yahoo.com is free,
this is a mailing list. Members: 1300

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New treasury secretary seems inclined against bailouts.
groups.yahoo.com

Criticism of GATA in South Africa Business Report, but don't worry.
groups.yahoo.com

GATA chairman's full report on his visit to South Africa.
groups.yahoo.com

DALLAS--(BUSINESS WIRE)--Dec. 11, 2000--A lawsuit filed in U.S. District
Court in Boston with the support of the Gold Anti-Trust Action Committee
accuses five investment houses, the Bank for International Settlements,
and top officials of the U.S. Treasury Department and U.S. Federal
Reserve Board of conspiring to suppress the price of gold.

The lawsuit gata.org
charges the defendants with price fixing, securities fraud,
and breach of fiduciary duty. U.S. government officials are
accused of exceeding their constitutional authority.