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To: hmaly who wrote (132862)	2/15/2001 1:37:20 PM
From: Scumbria	Respond to of 1570313

Harry, The only flaws I care about in a President are related to their performance in office. I bring up Bush flaws strictly to point out the hypocrisy of Clinton haters. Can W control the budget? I doubt it. Scumbria

To: hmaly who wrote (132862)	2/15/2001 2:11:15 PM
From: tejek	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1570313

Harry, Nonetheless, its gross how your party colleagues have hounded this man because he is flawed. Don't those a-holes have anything better to do? They are wasting my tax $$$ with their partisan bullshit. I can't believe you and the others on this thread are proud to belong to an organization that behaves in this fashion. What's next? Laughing at people with drinking problems? Oh, no, can't do that.....then you guys would have to laugh at the current president. The above is what I originally posted. When I said "What's next?", I meant "What's next [for the Reps. to ridicule]. <<<<<What's next? Laughing at people with drinking problems? Oh, no, can't do that.....then you guys would have to laugh at the current president.<<<<< That statement is really brilliant. In the previous paragraph you claimed that the rep. have hounded this man because he is flawed. And yet here you are, hounding GW because he isn't perfect enough for you. Did GW have a drinking problem in the past? Yes. Did the public know about it during the election. Yes. Has GW stopped drinking. Yes, over 15 yrs ago. Is GW doing drugs now. No; Gw took a drug test several wks ago and made drug testing mandatory for employment at the White House. Did the public know GW may have done drugs in the past. Yes. Jay Leno mentioned it almost every night. Yet here we are, GW carried 30 states and the election; in spite of his past flaws. GW has proved with his drug tests and his actions that his past flaws are just that; in the past. Can you say the same of slick Willy? I was not laughing at Bush because he was an alcoholic. What I was saying is that the Reps. can't laugh at people with drinking problems because their candidate is an alcoholic. My point? No one can afford to throw stones because no one is without flaws.......even me. ;~)) Nonetheless, its gross how your party colleagues have hounded this man because he is flawed. Don't those a-holes have anything better to do? They are wasting my tax $$$ with their partisan bullshit. <<<<<< I assumed that the "its gross how your party have hounded this man" refers to the republican party and that man refers to slick Willy; and by saying "its gross" I assumed you disagreed the congressional investigations into slick Willy's flaws. If all of those assumptions are correct, why is it that you feel hounding or investigating GW's past flaws are perfectly fine, but looking into Bill's current flaws are gross? No one is hounding Bush for is drinking problems because the people who could/ would [read dems] don't because they don't think its appropriate/proper. However the Reps apparently think its okay to go after someone with sexual improprieties/hangups. My high school fraternity brothers were like that; my college frat. brothers less so. My conclusion still stands.....grow up Reps. Its getting very old and makes the US look like the bush leagues...oops, sorry; like a bantam weight class. ted

To: hmaly who wrote (132862)	2/15/2001 2:28:28 PM
From: tejek	Respond to of 1570313

Harry, Bush will always be an alcoholic; albeit, a recovering one. There is no known cure for alcoholism. <<<<<<<< Alcoholism is a disease which can't be cured, but it can be controlled. When you say "albeit a recovering one" you admit that GW is controlling that flaw. And that begs the question Why hasn't Bill been able to control his flaws, and why are you making excuses; while attacking GW for flaws that GW has bought under control? First, Bush is managing his disease.....probably by turning it over to a higher power. As for Clinton, I do not know why Clinton has not dealt with his desires to stray while in places where he could get in trouble. Why do gays solicit sex in johns where it is well known that undercover cops frequent those johns, waiting to bust people? Why did Bush repeatedly DUI when he had been warned not to several times? Who can explain why otherwise rational people do stupid things? If you have evidence that GW has become a drunk since the inauguration; provide it and I will join you in condemning GW for that flaw.. If Scumbria thinks GW still has a drug problem, he should provide a link, which show GW is indeed doing drugs now; and I will join you in condemning that flaw. Bill's flaws were done during and after his presidency, and he has shown no ability to control his flaws. Why do you degrade a man who can control his flaws, while advocating a man who you admit has ongoing flaws. I degraded neither of them for their flaws. Once again, I think most psychologists would say you can't control your penchant for improprieties but rather find out what the motivation is and then defuse that motivation. Why Clinton has not dealt with his emotional problems...I don't think he probably has had the time nor the support. Unlike Bush, Clinton came from a single parent household where alcoholism had been rampant. As the eldest, he was expected to lead and provide for the family....a tremendous burden for an adult, an almost impossible burden for a child. He was also expected to excel at school..which he did. There is a price to be paid when you come out that kind of situation. I suspect Clinton's story is "The Drama of the Gifted Child". Its a small but powerful book.....you might want to read it. ted