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To: Think4Yourself who wrote (87599)	2/17/2001 8:40:28 PM
From: Zeuspaul	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 95453

Your post doesn't make sense to me. It doesn't make sense to me either and that is the point. I was commenting on the public's perception of the electricity shortage. Common sense leads one to believe there is not an energy shortage as it is the off season. Your argument comparing gross generating ability against actual demand is correct and demonstrates another incredibly stupid action by the California government (and the EPA). They force capacity to stay offline the plants have exhausted their pollution credits As far as I know the plants that have exceeded their pollution credits have been authorized to run although I believe they have to contribute some $ to the pollution kiddy. I don't think the current shortages have anything to do with pollution issues. IMO power is being withheld from the market as a bargaining tool. At this point in time conservation wouldn't make any difference. Any conservation would be matched by reductions in supply. Current supply outages are running 250 percent above historic averages. I believe this figure refers to routine maintenance outages by the power producers. MUCH better to have billions in economic losses due to blackouts. That depends on where you are. If you are in one of the 48 states with controlled artificially low juice prices California's loss becomes your gain. A good way to attract industry to your state is to have controlled low juice prices while your neighboring state has wildly fluctuating market prices. Is it any wonder high tech has started expansions and moves to outside the state? It makes a lot of sense. Actually California industry started looking for new homes when the energy gurus turned the price curve upside down. It used to be large users got a break on the cost of juice. Watch the aluminum and fertilizer industry search for a new home outside the US. Everybody (left and right)has been focusing on trying to reduce demand. Busses, carpools, cold houses in the winter time, hot houses in the summer time. If you are not suffering you must be wasting energy. The focus should be on increasing supply in an environmentally friendly way. It IS all a game, a very stupid game being controlled by very stupid people. That's the point. If you took the game away from the politicians and the MBAs and gave it to the scientists, engineers and technicians that produce the juice there would be plenty to go around. If demand is 50 percent of capacity and there are blackouts then IMO John Q Public in California is justified in assuming there isn't a shortage of juice. Zeuspaul