To: rich4eagle who wrote (127780 ) 2/18/2001 12:28:32 PM From: mst2000 Read Replies (5) | Respond to of 769670 So true rich4eagle. On the positive side, 52% of the public clearly rejected Dubya's politics in this election, and a different Democratic candidate besides Gore might have done even better. And the pursuit, over the next 2 years, of a right wing agenda will reveal Dubya for who he really is, which is a passionate conservative (not a compassionate one) and certainly not the quasi-moderate his rhetoric tries to paint him as, and will make the numbers even better for the democrats. Add to that the rage that will resurface once the full story of the election comes out, and Ashcroft does his thing at DOJ, and the fact that Strom Thurmond and Jesse Helms are not that far from the afterlife, and there is a better than decent chance that the GOP's control of the Congress will fall within 2 years, and that the White House will be regained in 4 years. On the negative side, the GOP money machine is only going to get stronger, and nobody ever went broke underestimating the intelligence of the public. People hear what they want to hear, and see what they want to see, and the media (which is no enemy of the GOP, contrary to popular myth) is not going to paint Dubya in a negative light until their perceive a popular groundswell against him. Personally, I think the Florida stories are going to prove much sleazier than most realize (I am convinced that the "defeat" of Gore and the disenfranchisement of hundreds of thousands of democratic supporters in Florida was no accident, but was deliberately engineered by Dubya's brother and the Florida GOP machine, a story that will surface despite Herculean efforts to prevent it from coming out) and that, when the full scope of them is understood, the press will turn against Dubya. I give that 3-6 months, BTW. Also on the negative side, the GOP now controls (to a large extent, anyway) the makeup of the Federal judiciary going forward -- the last line of defense for individual liberties and governmental overreaching will now be controlled by people who believe that all discussion regarding the content of the term "liberty" ended in 1789. Hopefully the progressive forces in this nation will prevent the GOP from stacking the Courts with a bunch of Scalia and Thomas clones -- but even if they do, the face of the Judiciary will still be decidedly more conservative over the next 4 years than it would have been under a Gore presidency. And we all know how allegedly conservative judges can turn democracy on its head -- I mean, look at how 5 "conservative" justices managed to defeat the will of the people, and hand the White House to the guy who lost by 500,000+ votes. A multi-generational fight, indeed. I'm up for it. You? MST