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To: OpusX who wrote (5773)	2/19/2001 12:13:14 PM
From: Murray Grummitt	Respond to of 8925

You wrote, Murray, I think you are missing the point. Having studied both the Canadian "socialized medicine" and our own system, what you have here is an inherent problem built in to the Canadian system. A draconian bias towards cost-cutting measures that many times does a deep diservice to it's citizens. Yes, I can forgive the paramedic crews, but not the system that caused this tragedy. OpusX Opus, The majority of the problems within the Canadian "socialized medicine" system are due a draconian bias towards cost-cutting measures that a deep diservice to it's citizens. Agreed, but these are being done by governments in an effort to move toward a "privatised medicine" system! The "socialized medicine" system has functioned very well for years before this happened. Further more since you are conviced the "system" caused the tragedy I would like to add that I have heard of many similar incidents of incompetence and malpractice by paramedic crews in the U.S. Y worry Murray

To: OpusX who wrote (5773)	2/19/2001 1:06:05 PM
From: synchro_fan	Respond to of 8925

OpusX As a Canadian, I protest. This has nothing to do with socialized medicine. If the child had died waiting in the emerg, then you may have a point. Nothing kept that family from bundling everyone up, into their car(as outlined in another newspaper article about this incident) and off to the emerg. We also have a huge network of walkin clinics around our country. We had one incident here in Alberta. The patient did not like the waiting time and went to 3 different hospitals to seek medical attention. He had appendicitics(spelling??). By the time, he got to the last hospital, his condition had worsened, emergency surgery and he died after being airlifted to the original hospital. I can understand a male teenager's sense of impatience and immortality. Not that I defend our medical system, but please place the blame where it may be due. In both cases, I lay the responsibilities of what happened with the parents. Syncie