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To: PROLIFE who wrote (573)	2/18/2001 11:20:26 PM
From: E	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 948

Oh, look, surprise surprise, PROLIFE makes no distinction between a fertilized egg and "a person!" ~ I wonder why not? PROLIFE, I have a blueprint I want to sell you. ( It's a bridge, actually, it only looks like it's something else! That explains the high price; bridges don't come cheap, you know! But if you buy today, you can have a hefty discount!) I'm glad that even if the American Taliban aren't, the vast majority of Americans are capable of distinguishing between an egg and a chicken. Will you be adopting any mentally retarded crack-addicted FAS microcephalic babies with three damaged siblings soon? You didn't answer Ylang's question. There are many many of them, and this is with choice. Think how many more there will be for you to take care of if you get the forced gestation legislation you yearn for! You'll have hardly an idle moment! Or are you perhaps thinking someone else will take care of the increasing numbers of these afflicted children, because you are fully occupied seeing to it that pregnant AIDS infected crack addict prostitutes are forced to gestate a baby a year?

To: PROLIFE who wrote (573)	2/18/2001 11:22:36 PM
From: E	Respond to of 948

BTW, there was a conversation on another thread in which Steven Rogers posted an amusing scenario thought-provoking enough to post here: An amusing hypothetical example that struck me while fetching my daughter. Imagine that a President was elected with a minority of the popular vote, and won the electoral vote only through what the aggrieved group perceived as a judicial coup d'etat. Suppose that this government implemented rules aimed at forcing pregnant women to give birth, which many women see as a direct violation of their right to determine what is done with their bodies. Suppose that this government packed the courts with people of like mind, restricting peaceful redress. Would the aggrieved women be justified in taking up arms against the State? Message 15362015

To: PROLIFE who wrote (573)	2/18/2001 11:35:16 PM
From: E	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 948

I seem to recall that you think fertilized eggs are capable of suffering. Was that you? I forget. There are some people here who do think that. They really do! Perhaps not you. I forget. There are those in the forced-gestation movement who think RU486 would cause pain to babies in the third world (I know this because when you ask about RU486 their answers refer to painful deaths of babies), and there are those who know it doesn't, and that starvation, disease, brutality, and slow death do-- but don't feel that that agony is as important in the grand scheme of things as requiring women to gestate all fertilized eggs until they turn into embryos and then fetuses and sentient persons and then slowly die, maggots crawling in and out of their noses, across the emaciated bodies of their almost-dead mothers. I can't recall with which group you identify. I thank God for RU486, because the ludicrous position you are forced by your zealotry to take on it, put together with your insistence on forcing others to obey your personal doctrine, makes so clear to almost everyone in the civilized world how grotesque a proposition is the one that insists that an egg is a chicken.

To: PROLIFE who wrote (573)	2/19/2001 9:59:00 AM
From: YlangYlangBreeze	Respond to of 948

So how many kids are you going to take? Did you even look at those babies? Acorns aren't trees. Eggs aren't chickens. How about this? 5) An embryo is not a person, and you do not know that. So you force the woman to incubate it until it becomes a person, to die be abandoned, die a in trashcan, or live on the street if lucky maybe in an orphanage, raped on a whorehouse, or abused by drug addict parents. You would be a co-perpetrator in the suffering of that child. Sustained by any of these enriching experiences, they will surely lead healthy productive lives.