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Politics : Electoral College 2000 - Ahead of the Curve -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?


To: mst2000 who wrote (6625)2/20/2001 12:21:05 AM
From: CYBERKEN  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 6710
 
Well put. But why is this argument never applied to the doctrine of political correctness that infects our schools at all levels far more comprehensively than any attempts to force the pledge, and threatens far more long-term harm?

My theory is that those who perceive themselves to be securely in power will tend to oppress in the direction that they find the easiest. And that lack of diligence by those they would rule-through apathy or intellectual sloth-leads to slavery.

Forcing the pledge on students is not today's danger, "Saving the Planet" is more likely to lead to the new 21st century Fascism.

A major political party got together at their convention last year-to boo the Boy Scouts. It starts in the smallest of ways...



To: mst2000 who wrote (6625)2/20/2001 11:31:05 AM
From: The Philosopher  Respond to of 6710
 
So far I have seen nothing that coerces people to say the pledge. The only coercion is for being disruptive.

We require children learn and repeat many things in school -- the multiplication tables, the alphabet, speeches from Hamlet, all designed to teach them things we want them to learn and including values we want to pass on to the next generation. Is there something wrong with teaching evolution in the school? Teaching the the earth is round, and flunking students who insist it is flat?

Is teaching students respect for each other okay, but teaching them respect for their flag not okay? Nonsense.

Is it acceptable to tech students them that love of the environment is good but love of their country is bad? Absurd.

Heck, if the civil libertarians want something to yell about, why don't they stop the coercion that requries students to be silent in the halls, the coercion that forces them on pain of delinquency and eventually jail to sit in classrooms all day long, all the thousands of other coercions we inflict on our children. Interesting that this is the only one I've ever seen you object to.

Edit: And next let's jail all those parents who try to inculcate politeness in their children by coercing them to say please and thank you all the time. EVIL PARENTS!!