To: 5dave22 who wrote (133184 ) 2/20/2001 12:27:25 PM From: hmaly Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 1580568 Dave Re>>>>>>>I do not understand your deductions from my post - anything about drinking age limits and having fun. <<< Here is your previous post. You honestly feel that putting innocent people's lives in danger is OK, so you can have a little fun? That it's not within your responsibility to wait a little while after you've had a few beers? You talk about the irresponsibility of putting lives in danger for a little fun. I could agree with you if it was possible to totally control our kids, and if taking the fun out of life didn't have other consequences. Alcohol is equated by our society as having fun in many ways. A lot of people turn to alcoholic drinks as a social medium. I.E. let go to the bar and have a few drinks, is a way of getting together socially. Or lets go the the bar and have a few drinks, as a way of getting out and being visible to the opposite sex; so that you can meet your partner . That is what I am talking about. The bar scene serves as a dating service so to speak, and if we take the scene away, it will be replaced, in many instances by even worse scenes. We may eliminate a small percentage of drunk driving accidents, but we will likely replace those accidents with drug induced accidents, not to mention the simple fact that our kids will be going to a far more dangerous scene, alcohol with drugs and sex in the apartment scene, and peer pressure for drugs on the rave scene. You are not going to eliminate your kids quest to have fun and be part of the crowd. That is nature. But you could drive your kids into a more dangerous place, and that is the point. I see your reply hasn't addressed this issue. But that is my point. I am not saying that it is completely safe at .1, but that I would rather put up with the bar scene and its problems than the alternatives. The majority of people at .1 will be too impaired to make a snap decision to stop in a crosswalk before it is too late. You'll have to trust me on that one.<<<<<< I have no idea what happened to you personally. But many times the alcohol is blamed as the fault of an accident when it is other things. Innattentive driving, sleepiness, distractions, cell phones etc. but as soon as a few drinks are mentioned, it is entirely alcohols fault. Does alcohol slow down your reflexes. YES. But many times, .08 or .1 wouldn't have made any difference if other attenuationng circumstances were involved. For instance, running a red light very seldom is from not reacting to the red light fast enough, but rather you weren't attentive enough to notice the red light in the first place. It could be you were talking to friends, or enjoying the music, or in my case, being a dirty old man, noticing the babe on the street. But in the accident report they stress alcohol, no matter what. I am not trying to excuse alcohol either, but we should recognize the role alcohol serves in our society, and the total effects on both sides of the coin, before we condemn it.