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To: Tenchusatsu who wrote (128129)2/22/2001 10:43:01 PM
From: Scumbria  Respond to of 186894
 
Ten,

Athlon debuted at 180 mm2, but that didn't dampen your constant praise of the design.

Athlon was 180mm on 0.25u, and I praised it because it was a very well balanced design.

P4 is twice the size of Athlon on 0.18u, and runs at much lower IPC, and not much higher frequency.

P4 is a poor design for the mass market, and the decision to only use dual channel RDRAM was probably the dumbest decision I've have seen yet from Intel.

(Actually, the decision to go exclusively with RDRAM on Timna was just as bad.)

I know that you work for Intel, but I'm sure you understand that Intel is very poorly positioned in the desktop market. The only thing that keeps their desktop business alive, is inertia.

Scumbria



To: Tenchusatsu who wrote (128129)2/22/2001 11:36:06 PM
From: Amy J  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 186894
 
Hi Ten, in an economic downturn, I would bet Sun's products suddenly look pretty expensive to IT managers.

Regards,
Amy J



To: Tenchusatsu who wrote (128129)2/22/2001 11:55:16 PM
From: Elmer  Respond to of 186894
 
Re: "Besides, one of Intel's product lines which are still strong despite the economic downturn is Cascades Xeon, and its die size is a whopping 350 mm2"

Remarkably, Intel's yields on these huge die are actually better than on smaller die, based on model predictions. I'm not at liberty to say why but I wonder if thewatsonyouth is listening and would care to guess? (and no, it can't be explained by sram redunduntcy).

EP