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To: Floody who wrote (94554)	2/24/2001 6:38:17 PM
From: pcstel	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 152472

Floody" <Does GSM 2100 handle data? If so, how does it compare to 1xev in terms of speed? > It has nothing to do with comparison in speed to 1xEV.. It has to do with "Economics".. How can the operators with existing UMTS licenses deploy infrastructure with the least cost in order to generate some cash from that Spectrum.. High Speed Mobile Data markets are "unproven".. Some claim they do not exist!! Like I have ranted several times on the G* thread.. Data is considered a "second rate citizen" in much of the world.. If I go pick up my land-line phone... It costs me 42 cents a minute to send a "time sensitive" stream of low data rate information.. (my voice) to Argentina. Yet, I can send all the information in the Library of Congress in a "less time sensitive" fashion to Argentina for almost Free via Data.. When I use my "Thin Phone" to request a stock quote.. I sit there and stare at the screen waiting for a response.. I know I am getting charged for all the time it takes to get a response.. Even though I see nothing happening on my screen.. In the back of my mind,, I am thinking.. This is "ripping me off".. This cost me "nothing at home"!! Data is a "second rate citizen".. Yet the operators want to charge for it like voice.. With voice.. We can hear what we are being charged for.. With data.. It's just a blank screen as we wait for a reply.. Yet the meter continues to run.. Just like 3 years ago when the whole 3G concept started.. Everyone imagined about all the applications that would require 3G speeds.. Hey, we can download "digital music".. And yes.. Three years ago.. It would have required 13 Megabytes to download a AIFF file.. Now you can download it in 2 MBytes.. So the required bandwidth just dropped by a factor of 500%.. Compression Techniques continue at an Exponential Rate.. So what was viewed as "requiring 3G speeds" can now be done over 64 kbs.. And if someone came up with the "Killer App" that required 384kbs data rates today.. In 2 years.. They would have it working over 64kbs.. These increases in data compression techniques costs the operators "almost nothing".. Yet, it makes their systems "available bandwidth" increase exponentially because the applications keep getting smaller and smaller.. It's like free spectrum... Voice is a market they know they can sell.. It's a given.. There is NO RISK! It's a business plan they can sell to banks.. Look, we need X Billion and we are going to re-use our existing terminal equipment, and Base Station locations.. We are going to increase our ability to sell Voice Services.. See look at out Balance Sheet.. See all these Dollars that are coming in the door??? These are from Voice Services.. So if they were going to deploy 1xEV.. How would they sell this to the Banks? How much more than the X Billion for a GSM2100 build out would they need... Would they need to deploy some Totally New Base Stations to accomodate a CDMA 1xEV solution? How did the Vodafone CDMA overlay trials go in the UK in 1997?? If you don't think that the Nords already have an answer to the question.. What are we gonna do with out UMTS Spectrum.. You are living in Denial.. PCSTEL