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To: marek_wojna who wrote (64456)	2/25/2001 3:42:51 PM
From: sea_urchin	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 116753

marek : <If you were born in Russia, China or an Indian subcontinent even as an individual your chances of creating your own destiny are almost nil.> I beg to differ. Former Russian, Chinese and Indian people are now found all over the world. In fact, Indians who have settled in the US are said to be the prime movers behind the IT developments which are taking place in California and which have driven the internet. Today, in fact, is a golden age for Indians all over the world. South Africans, too, have the choice to stay in SA or go elsewhere. Of course, they have to have the necessary ability to effect that choice. I understand that, today, there are illegal SA immigrants in many countries, even in the US. <Are you convinced that the problems South Africa is facing now wouldn't change if there was 4% unemployment> This is a complex question and are, frankly, beyond this forum. However, the problems of SA are not only economic. They are economic in so far as many people are poor but they are existential in terms of how the people see their lives and what they do about them. While the people intend to breed themselves out of poverty, as they have done since time immemorial, they will become even poorer. Increasingly, the nations of Africa, like nations elsewhere, will have to pick themselves up by their own bootstraps. That is, if the circumstances of disease and bad government etc will allow it. Socialism has already impoverished most "developing" countries in Africa and the West is sick and tired of putting hand-outs into bottomless holes. I have no doubt that, in time to come, as result of the decimation of the population due to AIDS etc, there will be 4% unemployment. I'm not sure if the country will be better off then, or worse. <Corrupt people are in every country and to get yourself elected anywhere in the world you have to be corrupt> Now you sound almost as cynical as I am. But I won't argue with you.