To: Scumbria who wrote (133583 ) 2/26/2001 1:20:17 PM From: hmaly Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 1570655 Scumbria RE...First he won come-from-behind victories on deficit reduction and the North American Free Trade Agreement. Then came a global trade agreement that may help boost U.S. exports in the long run. <<<<< While I agree that NAFTA was a great trade agreement, the simple fact is NAFTA was worked on and the outlines of NAFTA were done before Bill took office. http://www-tech.mit.edu/Bulletins/nafta.html ** NORTH AMERICAN FREE TRADE AGREEMENT ** -- Text prepared September 6, 1992 -- Note: This text is currently undergoing legal review in order to ensure the Agreement's overall consistency and clarity. The three countries will initial the Agreement when legal drafting is completed. <<<<<<< As you can see, the NAFTA document on the net was posted Sept, 6, 1992, 2 months before Bill was elected and 4.5 months before Bill took office. This was a bipartisian agreement drawn up with both DEm and rep. backing. I agree that the dems including Bill took a great risk passing this agreement because the unions ; the dems main source of money, were against it, and had the potential to really backfire on them. To their credit , the dems stuck to their guns and helped pass it. But Bill himself only signed it into law. He didn't have anything to do with the conception of it. That's because the recovery remains in the throes of two distinct economic cycles, the TIME panel agreed. On the one hand, the U.S. has clearly rebounded from the 1990 slump as low interest rates and the release of pent-up consumer demand have set off a run on such big-ticket items as houses and cars. On the other hand, the payroll slashing that dates back to the 1980s remains in full force as U.S. corporations strive to compete in world markets. Even the boom in business investment, which has boosted economic growth, has gone largely for computers and other labor-saving devices rather than for job-creating new factories and machinery. "The fixation of the moment continues to be on downsizing and cost cutting, whether it's through machines or layoffs, and that fixation remains very intense," says Stephen Roach, co-director of global economic analysis for Morgan Stanley. "I don't think it's going to subside."<<<<<<<<<< Please note that this paragraph talks about the payroll slashing that had gone on since the mid 80's, which made the US corporations more competitive world wide, with most of the investment going into computers etc. This increased our competivity but kept down inflation as labor costs were kept in check. Despite such crosscurrents, the U.S. has been growing far faster than its industrial allies and promises to widen the gap in 1994 as both Japan and Europe remain mired in slumps. Yet that could set the stage for stronger U.S. growth in 1995 once Japan and Europe begin to recover and increase their purchases of American exports.<<<<<< Notice here that the article talks about Japan and Europe remain mired in slumps set the stage for even faster growth. You will note that the article didn't say that the deficit reductions caused the economy to grow. It was the efficiencies of corporate downsizings, investments in computers etc. and the slump in Europe and Japan. The economists also said the burden of higher taxes on the economy would be far outweighed by the benefits of falling oil prices and low interest rates. "The tax increase is easily absorbable and is not going to derail the economy," said Meyer.<<<<<< Note that the article states that falling oil prices and lower interest rates kept the tax increases from derailing the economy. Not the other way around. The deficit reduction act was passed in Nov. 1993 , but the tax increases didn't take effect until after this article was written. You have the cart before the horse when you say that deficit reduction act(the raising of taxes) casued interest rates to drop. Here we can see that lower interest rate and lower oil prices caused the higher taxes to be successful. Another important variable is whether recent improvements in U.S. productivity will continue in 1994. Productivity, which measures the hourly output of workers, had increased less than 1% a year for most of the 1980s, hurting U.S. competitiveness. But productivity grew a healthy 1.5% last year, after surging about 3% in 1992, as downsized companies ran their plants and offices with fewer workers.<<<<< Please note that productivity grew at 3% in Bush's last yr in office, and low productivity increases in the 80's set the stage for larger productivity increases in the 90's. In other words, Bill took over under ideal economic conditions. For now, the economists agreed that the U.S. economy will continue to show solid growth over the next two years. Yet the timing of the economic cycle could cause trouble for Clinton if the aging recovery begins to fade in 1996 when he runs for a second term. "The problem for Bill Clinton is, we're going to have a good 1994 and a good 1995," Jones said. "But look out, Bill, for 1996." However, for Americans who have endured three years of the leanest economic recovery on record, the prospect of two reasonably fat years looks just fine, thank you. (chart)NOT AVAILABLE CREDIT: TIME'S FORECAST CAPTION Please note that Greenspan started out the recovery in 91 and 92 at a very slow pace, which extends the length of the economic recovery. A very fortuitous happenstance for Bill. I am not trying to say Bill was a rotten president. What I am saying is Bill had a fortunate set of circumstances happen (NAFTA, oil price drops, lowering interest rates, slow economic recovery, corporation downsizing, Russia's disintegration) all of which created ideal economic circumstances. It is too bad that Bill, ruined it with his personal problems. Bill could have gone down in history as one of America's greatest presidents, instead of being known as the greatest liar, and the only president to be impeached.