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To: Gottfried who wrote (42712)2/26/2001 3:41:47 PM
From: Alastair McIntosh  Read Replies (3) | Respond to of 70976
 
I can't understand the level of bullishness about AMAT. Sales are falling. Pushouts and cancellations will probably accelerate for the next six months.

In the past AMAT traded at a price/sales ratio of 1 at the bottom of its cycle. The normal price/sales ratio at the top of the cycle was 3. We are currently over 4 and thats based on trailing sales, not the $8 billion we can expect this year.

We are probably looking at sales this year of about $10/share. Why can't we expect a share price that will give a PSR of 1 at the bottom of the cycle? I guess one reason would be that AMAT has a more dominant position in its marketplace. Even using a bottom PSRof 2 we will still be looking at $20/share this fall. This will still be a P/E of about 14 based on earnings of $1.40.



To: Gottfried who wrote (42712)2/26/2001 3:50:37 PM
From: Jacob Snyder  Respond to of 70976
 
sorry I wasn't clear. I see a "U" for the overall economy, and for the semi industry (which I think, more and more, will follow the general economy). Orders for semi-equip, based on the consistent pattern of the past, make a saw-tooth pattern, so the trough will be V-shaped.