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To: epicure who wrote (6819)	2/27/2001 6:27:41 PM
From: Lane3	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 82486

Education in America is one of the few places where people come together and are forced to learn to get along I'm not ready to give up on public education yet, either. I think there are similarities to the time that the military stopped the draft. I'm not saying that was, on balance, a bad idea, but there was definitely an upside to mixing young people together in boot camp. I would be in favor of running a competitive system within the public schools. If the unions could be convinced, that is. Karen

To: epicure who wrote (6819)	2/27/2001 7:08:16 PM
From: TimF	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 82486

Vouchers would make for even more uneven and unfair distribution of education- Vouchers would make it posible for students in the worst schools to escape and probably make distribution of education more fair and even and most likely more effcient. Our public schools should be a number one priority, and fixing them for every child in America our number one goal. Improving education across the country should be our number one goal. That doesn't necesarily mean that all this improvement will come through pulbic schools. A lot of it will have to because that is where most of the students are and you can't change a whole system of education over night, however the public schools themselves are likely to improve if they have to compete not only against current private schools, but against current public schools and any new schools that are set up to try to attract the students who's poor public schools don't improve in the face of competition. A service, such as education, might be provided poorly by an entity that faces competition. However if it is then its customers will go to its competition. If the service is provided by a socialist monopoly then there is no competition, less pressure to improve, and no ability for the customers of the service to escape from poor providers. Tim

To: epicure who wrote (6819)	2/27/2001 11:02:10 PM
From: coug	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 82486

Hi X, Re: Public Schools and Education.. Based upon my experience with public school education beginning with my own, in a one room rural school in Washington. The problem has been consistently the same.. If the child doesn't learn, it is always the teachers and the school's fault.. I know because my Mother was a teacher in one of the last rural one-room schools that contained 10-20 student and taught all eight grades.. They consolidated and abandoned them in the mid-sixties... I graduated from there and went to town for High School, where I led in academics until my sister came in a year later.. But even then,, IF a child didn't learn at my Mom's school.. It was her fault.. So later on, my experience has been the same,, their is a GOOD EDUCATION offered and taught at the Public Schools. But if no one accept's the offer.. It goes to want. But even if goes to WANT, after it is all over, and the Child comes out clueless, It is not the Family's fault or the Child's fault,, It is, of course, the School's fault.. Ye ole "blame game".. no responsiblity, for anything, from education, to personal health to bad trades, (this being a financial forum and all, g) in our soft society.. So thanks for the time, The Coug, thinking and experiencing, "you can lead a horse to water.." and going on to say, it would be a crime against our society to tear down the public education system and replace it with a "for profit system" .. where the only ones that would profit would be the operators, and sure as hell.. would NOT be the majority of the children.. It's already there , if they want it..