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Politics : Sharks in the Septic Tank -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?


To: Neocon who wrote (7016)3/1/2001 1:42:37 PM
From: Lane3  Read Replies (4) | Respond to of 82486
 
Yours is a defensible position, to assume that you are the arbiter of
your own standards, and that suffices, but it is one that I disagree
with deeply. Since there is almost no way to persuade you that
there is an objective ground to morality, we may be at an
impasse.......


An impasse isn't the best outcome for me because it leaves you with unmet, and perhaps unknown, expectations of me. I feel bad at the thought of letting anyone down. You get even less from an impasse because your expectations of me are not being met and the world isn't operating as you would like. You recognize this:

Moral obligations are voluntary, in the sense that we are at liberty
not to honor them.


You can perceive all the obligations you want from other people, but that doesn't get you anything if they don't know what their obligations are or if they don't honor them. You may perceive an obligation but it is hollow. Yours is a defensible position, too, but, without an enforcement mechanism, not very pragmatic. I would think it would only bring you disappointment.

4 : something one is bound to do : DUTY, RESPONSIBILITY


there is an objective ground to morality

I've did a search on your posts regarding "obligation." I see no reference to the source of this objective ground or the documentation of what's moral and what's not. To be successful, standards need to be documented and communicated so that at least everyone knows what they are, even if they choose not to be motivated by them or to abide them.

Karen