Doug Noland sends a "shout out" to Fleck & all his homies. What, no mention of Luc? -g-
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Ron Paul, kicking ass and taking names:
Texas Representative Ron Paul: Thank you. Welcome, Mr. Chairman (Greenspan). In the last few weeks you have received a fair amount of criticism and suggestions about what to do with interest rates and the economy. And I think that's going to continue, because I suspect that we are moving into what you call -- you do not call a recession, but a retrenchment. I guess that may be a new word. But anyway, there will be a lot of suggestions, and I do not want to presume that I want to make a suggestion what interest rates should be, but I would like to address more the system that you have been asked to manage, because in many ways I think it's an unmanageable system, and yet it's key to what's happening in our economy.
We have a system that you operate where you are asked to lower interest rates. And I would like to remind my colleagues and everybody else that when you're asked to lower interest rates, you're asked, really, to expand the money supply, because you have to go out and buy something. You buy debt. So every time somebody says “Lower the interest rates” they'll say, “Inflate the money.” And I think that's important. You had a little conversation before about the money supply, conceded it was important, but you don't even know what the good proxy is, so it's very difficult to talk about the money supply. I'm disappointed that we don't concentrate on that, talk about it more, even to the point now that we are -- you no longer make projections.
I think this is a mission almost of defeat. There's no requirement for you to say, “Well, we're going to expand the money supply at a precise rate.” So we're past that point of a tradition that has existed for a long time. But I think it's an unmanageable system, and it leads to bad ideas and bad consequences, because we concentrate on prices, which is a consequence of the inflation of the money supply. And therefore, if a PPI (producer price index) is satisfactory, we neglect the fact that the money supply is surging and that it's doing a lot of mischief. And therefore we talk about, “Well, maybe if we just slow up the economy, if we slow up the economy, it's going to take care of the inflation.” I think we're really missing the point.
But you did mention a couple of words in your testimony today that I thought were important, acknowledging that there are problems in the economy that we have to address. You talked about excesses and imbalances and the need for retrenchment. And I believe what is important is that we connect the excesses and the imbalances to the policy that you operate, because I think it is key. And instead of saying and being reassured that the PPI is okay, if we looked at the excesses, maybe there would have been an indication that there was a problem in the overspeculation in the stock market.
But here we have a monetary system that creates a speculation where NASDAQ goes to 5000 and then we have a lot of analysts telling us it's a good buy, and yet you're now citing the analysts that say, “Well, we can be reassured because these analysts are saying, you know, there's going to be a lot of growth.” So I'm not sure which analysts you're quoting, but I'm not sure that would be all that reassuring.
But I think we should really talk about the money supply and what we're doing. In 1996, you expressed a concern about irrational exuberance in the stock market, and I think that was very justified. But since that time, the money supply, measured by M-3, went up two and a quarter trillion dollars. And the stock market, of course, has soared. And I see those imbalances as a consequence of excessive credit.
And the system has defects in it. You're expected to know what the proper interest rate is. I don't think you can know it or the Federal Reserve. I think only the market can dictate the proper interest rate. I don't think you know what the proper money supply is. You admit you don't have a good proxy. And yet that is the job, and yet all we ever hear are the people coming and saying, “Now, Mr. Greenspan, if you want to avert a downturn, if you want to save us, just print more money.” And that's essentially what the system is doing. |