To: TobagoJack who wrote (15473 ) 3/3/2001 12:34:37 AM From: The Duke of URLĀ© Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 19079 Jay, Jay....Jay Jay: All I am trying to tell you is that posts which actually have content or are incisive or well meaning are worthwhile. Others, with the possible exception of some which are humorous or have curiosity, are not. We are not Yahoo, after all. With that in mind, your statement, "The situation will become a lot sillier before the answer to your counter-intuitive question is clear. Issue, when the answer is clear, where will the indices be at?" seems at best inarticulate. [I would not be so indelicate as to mention that it contains a dangling preposition, the etymological sign of the disorganized mind.] First, far from being "counter-intuitive" MeDroogies observation is a valid and instructive muse. His point, if he will allow me, is the observation, that if Oracle is now pervasive, from where does growth come? You statement: "Issue, when the answer is clear, where will the indices be at?" not only does not answer that question, but evidences no indication you understand the question. ("Indeces" is defined as the plural of index)The answer, if I may, is that software is the embodiment of the combination of the logical and the physical process to find an answer. Simply put, there is no logical limitation on the ability to increase the value of a software product, if the developer continues to improve the product, to reach out to include. Ellison knows this. That is the embodiment of 9i/11i. Maybe that is what he knows that you don't. The better the software is the more valuable it is. And suprisingly, the cheaper it is to produce, the MORE valuable it becomes. For this latter point, that cheaper is more valuable, I commend to your reading George Guiders very fine first and by far best effort, MICROCOSM . Oracle's five year increase in year to year profitability is 70% per year; the 3 year increase is 98%, the one year increase is 383%. Gates knows this he calls it "embrace and extend". You say:"When the jungle's floor thumps, is it always wise to stick around to find out the answer first hand?" You must be in a hurry, ...so many threads, so little time? I assume you meant, it is NOT always wise to stick around. This game is played by knowing your own hand. Not listening to the sound of others. Besides, a basic understanding of the Tax laws is necessary or you will get killed. To do otherwise is to join that heard mentality you mentioned (quoted proudly), in another post. You say: "If one is to treat investment as a game, which it is," Investing is not really a "game". A game depends on chance. Successful investing in the long run is based on logical understanding, don't you agree?? Chugs, Duke