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To: LindyBill who wrote (39954)3/3/2001 11:27:18 PM
From: Jacob Snyder  Respond to of 54805
 
re: NTAP and unreasonable valuation:

Well, now, let's see. Normally, I like to buy a company at a PEG of 1. That requires guessing the PE (since I use forward 12M earnings), and guessing the LT growth rate.

What will NTAP earn next year? In the current market environment, investors won't pay for 2002 or 2003 or 1010 earnings. Unfortunately, with the credit spigot shut off, and the possibility of a recession, NTAP's earnings for 2001 are in a lot of doubt. Consensus, I think, is 0.52, but I doubt that happens. Not when your customers are seeing their assets auctioned off on Ebay, and their stocks delisted. As CSCO and EMC have found out, all spending is discretionary, even routers and storage. OK, as a WAG, I'll say they make 0.40 in 2001.

How about the LT growth rate? Let's be real generous, and say 50%/year. Nobody grows at that rate longterm, but let's suspend disbelief, and see the rosiest of possible scenarios unfolding in the future.

Then: fair value = 0.40 X 50 = 20 for NTAP

I showed this chart to my wife:
bigcharts.com, and, without knowing anything about the company, she said, "It looks like it was flat for a long time, and then suddenly took off at the end of 1999. And it looks like it's going to give all that back, so why don't you buy it when it gets back there, at about 16. Then you'll know the hype is out of it." That's as good as any other advise I've heard.



To: LindyBill who wrote (39954)3/4/2001 1:28:40 AM
From: hueyone  Respond to of 54805
 
re: I guess I will find out what an unreasonable valuation is for them this year.

That's funny. I suppose you are right. It looks like your Russian army could retreat all the way from unreasonable high valuations to reasonable valuations to unreasonable low valuations in a very short time period. In the meantime, a lot of the troops are getting slaughtered along the way.


Best, Huey