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To: Jerome who wrote (43009)	3/4/2001 10:18:53 AM
From: michael97123	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 70976

Another take...I always ask liberals "how much is enough" At this point just return part of the surplus. How's that Jerome? Jerome, How do you justify the rise of the tax rate from 28% to 40% from 1986 to 2001? Maybe 28% was too low. But the justification for 40% is safeguarding SS and paying off the debt. There are other ways to safeguard SS without burdening the poor and the young with high taxes while at the same time taking the seed capital out of the hands of entrepreneus and small businesses? 28-40 Jerome, somewhere between those numbers should be a compromise, wouldnt you think, that would satisfy us both. BTW, Bush 33% is in the middle so perhaps you liberals can come in at 36% with an end to the marriage penalty, lower rates for the poor and reform(not repeal) of the death tax. Why cant liberals come in with this variation. Reason is that this surplus crap is merely a ruse to keep that money in play so at the right time we can move to another Great Society type program. Tax cuts take the money out of the hand of government. That is what this is all about. Mike

To: Jerome who wrote (43009)	3/4/2001 10:43:31 AM
From: Proud_Infidel	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 70976

Suppose that taxes are too high. But if you reduce taxes... what functions of government do you want to give up? How about the personal proerty tax in some places? You pay a tax when you earn the money, one one you purchase merchandise, and then another to the govt for simply having the property. In some parts of the world this is called extortion. How about the marriage penalty? Penalizing people for getting together to start a family! How about doing away with the death tax? Death is a taxable event? Usually taxable events are caused by rational deciions one makes and that one has control over. This certainly is not fair to those who may lose the family business so that some politician can fund his entitlement program. BK

To: Jerome who wrote (43009)	3/4/2001 11:04:07 AM
From: Joseph Beltran	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 70976

Jerome, I just wanted to make a few comments on your laundry list of government functions: IMHO one of the problems we have today (and have had, for a awhile) is that everyone looks to the federal government to address every need and problem that we are faced with. Take education, for example. One would be hard pressed to argue that the federal constitution conveys to the federal government (as opposed to the individual states) the responsibility to provide classrooms, teachers, etc. to its citizens. That is a state responsibility. Indeed, it is an express part of just about every state constitution in our country. Our forefathers would be turning over in their graves if they knew how much responsibility has been taken from individual states and "passed on" to the feds. The system they intended to design was one of limited federal powers (and responsibilities), and certainly not the ever broadening federal bureaucracy that we have today. The feds do not belong in education. Nor do they belong in a number of other areas as well. Heck, they have enough problems dealing responsibly and competently with providing a national defense. I have one relative working for the defense department (you average college grad) who gets paid for full-time work but works on the average only 30 hours a week. I know she can be easily replaced with a software program but a software program doesn't vote or pay taxes... sorry about the rambling.