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To: Eric L who wrote (9660)	3/5/2001 11:39:17 AM
From: Caxton Rhodes	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 34857

There was a lot of great stuff in the slides and presentations made last week, and there was also some questionable stuff, hype, sleight of hand, hocus pocus, and the normal bashing of any technology that was not created in San Diego. Like what, be specific. Caxton

To: Eric L who wrote (9660)	3/5/2001 12:04:16 PM
From: gdichaz	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 34857

Eric L: A pleasure to see you in good form. <<<Chaz claims I've always been Eurocentric. Actually, I thought I was being a little globalcentric>>> Chuckle. As you know, what I was really suggesting was that you pay similar attention to Asia, since you seem to know Europe so well. Your globalcentric view is progressing. <G> <<<I'm glad I supplement my QUALCOMM position with some Nokia. Somehow I find their presentation material and their presentation style very refreshing.>>> Any links or urls as examples of that refreshing material and style? Would enjoy comparing to the Q's of last week for completeness, clarity, and accuracy. (Especially interested in how Nokia puts meat on the bones of its claims for its upcoming CDMA leadership [sic.]) Best as always. Chaz PS Yes, it will be a good day when we can have better metrics on actual use of all 3G versions in real world commercial nets.

To: Eric L who wrote (9660)	3/5/2001 1:05:12 PM
From: JohnG	Respond to of 34857

Eric. I remain un impressed with the tack of your efforts to promote scepticism and disbelief. Clearly certain of the charts may have involved a degree of computer sumulation because they present projections for technology not yet developed. I say, better simulations than nothing at all. You argue against comparing peak data rates when you surely must know that there is no other possible standard of comparison at this point. You demean QCOM's credibility when you know that it is QCOM that has delivered on their CEMA promises. Look at NOK who still hasn't delivered a high quality CDMA product and who is 18 months behind in their GPRS development (and wants another 6 months). You cast vague acqusations hinting at your superior knowledge without identifying specifics: "There was a lot of great stuff in the slides and presentations made last week, and there was also some questionable stuff, hype, sleight of hand, hocus pocus, and the normal bashing of any technology that was not created in San Diego." I think you are capable of developing a more reasoned aet of objections, but I can usnerstand your unwillingness to do so. After all this is the NOK thread, where exageration is the order of the day. JohnG

To: Eric L who wrote (9660)	3/5/2001 1:05:12 PM
From: JohnG	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 34857

Eric. I remain un impressed with the tack of your efforts to promote scepticism and disbelief. Clearly certain of the charts may have involved a degree of computer sumulation because they present projections for technology not yet developed. I say, better simulations than nothing at all. You argue against comparing peak data rates when you surely must know that there is no other possible standard of comparison at this point. You demean QCOM's credibility when you know that it is QCOM that has delivered on their CEMA promises. Look at NOK who still hasn't delivered a high vuality CDMA product and who is 18 months behind in their GPRS development and wants another 6 months. You cast vague acqusations hinting at your superior knowledge without identifying specifics: "There was a lot of great stuff in the slides and presentations made last week, and there was also some questionable stuff, hype, sleight of hand, hocus pocus, and the normal bashing of any technology that was not created in San Diego." I think you are capable of developing a more reasoned aet of objections, but I can usnerstand your unwillingness to do so. After all this is the NOK thread, where exageration is the order of the day. JohnG