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To: Original Mad Dog who wrote (4922)	3/5/2001 3:04:53 PM
From: HG	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 15481

although singapore is a lot more strict about cleanliness......contrary to what the western media would have you believe, i don't think its just a minor offense like littering which lands you in trouble...or is it ?....i would think normally it would be vandalism, planned, deliberate vandalism which is punished ruthlessly....esp if it is a repeat crime..... The reason for the strictness comes from the kind of trade zone it is...the demograhics of the place makes it imperative for the govt to make it a law......the same reason why Toyota Corolla cost $80K there... I guess their values are different from the western values...and kids there grow up respecting authority and the law ! And who am I to judge what is right or wrong for them ? Its all perceptions.... But if I were to visit your house, I'd make sure I follow the rules that you enforce in your house...else maybe I shouldn't be visiting you at all....i won't be welcome if I challenge your way of life ? Dubai, on the other hand, is more tolerant....even of petty crimes like car thefts and such...serious crime has much more serious punishment though... Duabi takes away a little freedom....not much...its a plesant place to stay...a good compromise IMO !

To: Original Mad Dog who wrote (4922)	3/5/2001 8:00:50 PM
From: Jorj X Mckie	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 15481

I would rather live in a society that has more freedom and stresses personal responsibility (and accountability) and some crime than one that is highly regulated and with no crime. I believe that with every regulation, you lose a piece of the human heart and soul. At some point, the spirit of the society becomes crippled. In the spirit of this philosophy, when I went on my walkabout yesterday in Singapore, I intentional spit on the sidewalk not once, but twice. I know, I know, why would I tempt fate like that? All that I can say is that I knew that I had a crack team of lawyers at home.<g> Another interesting thing was that I ran across a pond filled with painted turtles. I sat down to watch them swim around. Apparently sitting down to watch turtles is the universal signal for "I am looking for a male prostitute" because that is exactly who approached me. Frankly, I think that when you have a society that is inherently oppressive, the result is that the deviant behavior (I am using "deviant" in a non-judgemental way) goes underground but will tend to blossom there. So, behind that pretty exterior of the "crime free" society, there is an underground society that is exaggerated in its deviance.

To: Original Mad Dog who wrote (4922)	8/28/2001 1:54:59 PM
From: HG	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 15481

We had this conversation a few days back..me and SK...and I thought I'd share this with you, given your views about social freedom and your concern how a crimeless society is tough to live in, as it may be too restrictive..... The economy being as it is, we were wondering what to do in case things got so bad here and HappyDood was laid off from work. Just wanted to have a workable Plan B. We talked about our next step...thought about going back to our homeland, going back to Australia, to Singapore, or returning to Dubai. These are the countries where we have lived and we're assured will always hold good jobs and lifestyles for people with our kind of experience and background, no matter what the economic situation of the region.... We went thru the pros and cons of living at each of these places. Australia was ruled out right at the start. Dubai won hands down....and we're not even Moslems or natives of Middle East.... And yet, I think you would find that choice very odd, given all the talk against limits on personal freedom in these countries.... I tell you, most of it is just talk.... :)