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To: Neocon who wrote (7555)	3/6/2001 11:45:32 AM
From: cosmicforce	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 82486

quantum mechanics is about the randomization of particles It has more to do with the exchange of information and other states by various modes and the non-determinism of such modes of exchange. QM is a funny beast: it isn't just a random number generator, it says that events are not determined until observed. It also predicts that it matters HOW they are observed ; it is fundamental to the nature of reality. That is a very interesting notion, especially since it is true. Going back to the cave wall analogy, the information stored there lives in an indeterministic state until observed. How it is transmitted is as relevant as the fact that it is observed. QM also is more analog than digital in that it is fuzzy. No one believes that the higher brain is mapped (something you said) - the most important higher consciousness functions are distributed which suggests a holographic storage system. There are some areas of specialization, but these are all lower centers related to signal processing (like motor, visual, auditory channels). Holography and QM are intricately linked and holographic storage systems use an information transform to represent data in a highly compressed way. This compression results in non-determinism hence the apparent connection to volition (my speculation). That is also why neuroscientists believe that it how consciousness arises because there are structures inside the nerve cells that appear to be able to execute at this level. Now that we are dealing with units smaller than a neuron, QM starts to take an important role because of the scale of the objects that we are looking at. As for anthropocentrism, it is the belief that humanity is the most important element in the universe. That is the dictionary definition. It works for me: namely, that human-centered activities are all that really matters. I disagree.

To: Neocon who wrote (7555)	3/7/2001 4:17:01 AM
From: 2MAR$	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 82486

I am baffled by what you mean by anthropocentrism.... Hi Neo, try this one : " Man tries to make for himself in the fashion that suits him best a simplified and intelligible picture of the world; he then tries to some extent to substitute this cosmos of his for the world of experience, and thus to overcome it. This is what the painter, the poet, the speculative philosopher, and the natural scientists do, each in his own fashion. Each makes this cosmos and its construction the pivot of his emotional life, in order to find in this way peace and security which he can not find in the narrow whirlpool of personal experience." "All religions, arts and sciences are branches of the same tree. All these aspirations are directed toward ennobling man's life, lifting it from the sphere of mere physical existence and leading the individual towards freedom." *** * hope you had a great birthday celebration with your son the other day...enjoying your sojourn here on the LWP thread , ( you benign Socratic trouble maker, hehe) ;-)