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To: foundation who wrote (9697)	3/6/2001 1:07:27 PM
From: 49thMIMOMander	Respond to of 34857

Base stations with lead faceplates?? Who knows, maybe??? (even if they always have transmitted the same number of channels, timeslots and GPRS only will lower their average transmit power) Ilmarinen. P.S. That elephant is much closer than you seem to believe or claim (although usually referred to as a duck, the ones who proliferate in the press for a minor pay) P.P.S. Are you sure you know the difference between and meaning of the 4 and 2 in 4+2, as well as who does what, base station and handset, transmit and receive, upstream and downstream?? (it seems you know, because you constantly get them wrong, nothing random in it)

To: foundation who wrote (9697)	3/6/2001 1:23:15 PM
From: S100	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 34857

It seems obvious that you have some serious misunderstanding of the basics. I suggest you review what is a forward and reverse channel before posting such nonsense. Also, how would the GPRS phones be used? Perhaps to listen to the IDCC CC for an hour or so, to find out the latest on Wide Band CDMA TDD? Or would you be viewing something on the screen of the phone? Unless you are very nearsighted, and you hold the screen an inch or so from your eyes, the phone should be a foot or more away from your neuron bank. If you are still concerned about the radiation you could investigate the ultimate in protection, a stainless steel colander placed over your head. Perhaps one could be vacuum formed to match the shape of the users' head for even better protection and comfort. Perhaps you could have the colander colored to mix or match the face plate of your GPRS phone. Blueberry, Lemon Lime or perhaps, dayglo orange for added safety while walking and surfing?

To: foundation who wrote (9697)	3/6/2001 1:59:32 PM
From: Eric L	Respond to of 34857

Ben, << not even with compression. 40-50kbs including compression is the maximum that will be sold to the public before 2003. Radiation will be the limiting factor. >> You could be right, but I disagree ... on both counts. BTW: what is the SAR for the Highly Efficient (?) 4 aggregated channel IS-95B phones sold in Korea, Japan, and coming soon to China? << Ignoring statements that Korean subsidy limitations will not apply to 1x handsets >> I've seen quite a few references to the fact that subsidy bans would not be lifted. I'm, however, a bit behind here. I've seen 3rd hand references but not anything direct. Can you give me a reference to that. Regardless, the trick for carriers is to make data pay. << ignoring carrier's incentives to move customers to 1x handsets for increased capacity >> They will have to incentivize if appealing apps, services, and devices are not available. << ignoring IJ's statement at recent conference that the majority of chipsets sold next year would be 1x >> I am not ignoring this. I'm counting on it. I am talking about data takeup, however, and the use of data services, not whether or not the handset has a 1x chipset. It will be interesting to see if US CDMA carriers opt for a Java R-UIM. Also interesting to see if KDDI will use an R-UIM. DoCoMo's Foma card is likely to be formidable. It is my understanding they will launch with some of the first 32-bit Java SIMs available in the world. << Europe's blunder with WAP, and the fallout will be correspondingly bleak >> Europe's blunder is everybody’s blunder. WAP is more acceptable in some environments than others, however, (due to lack of alternatives) and the Korean's and Japanese are at least "always on". The majority of US CDMA handsets have WAP browsers. The percentage using is very low. I'm not sure that "always on" is going to change that. WAP 2 and 'i-mode' might to some degree with newer devices. The 2 available SKT devices are both WAP enabled. WAP doesn't justify the cost of the handset. 1xRTT will deliver better data speed than we are used to here. The trick is still the services, and the devices, and chipsets and storage for those devices (not just the "ON TIME" MSM5105 or PHANTOM MSM51000). - Eric -