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Politics : Sharks in the Septic Tank -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: Greg or e who wrote (7641)	3/6/2001 2:37:31 PM
From: TimF	Respond to of 82486

We do not complain when human judges hand down sentences to guilty criminals, we trust their integrity. I don't always agree with judges decisions. Also most people would not say that a judges decision changes the nature of anything. If the defendant is guilty or innocent of a crime a judge declareing him otherwise does not change this reality it just changes how the defendant will be treated by the government. I believe in God, but it is not perhaps a very strong faith. I don't find it intuitively obvious that God exists. I believe but it is not a belief that I hold "with every fiber of my being". I think the traditional arguments for God do not actually prove he exists but some of them show that it isn't so unreasable to think that he exists. Most of these don't support support more then God as a special powerful being who created the universe. They do not support the traditional Christian vision of God, they also do not provide evidence or argument against such a vision of God. If I start with merely the idea that God is a powerful being and the creator of the universe then it does not automatically follow that he is infailable or that he should be followed or worshiped. I might reach the idea of an infailable, perfect, loving, wise God as a conclution but it would be easier for me to do so if was either a logical conclution born out be premises that I was certain of, or if it was intuitively obvious to me. I do reach this conclution but it is a weak one, because its support in my mind is weak. My belief in right and wrong or in extrinsic morality is stronger then my belief in God. How much more should we trust a God who Knows all of our thoughts and motives to do what is right? I'm not saying we shouldn't trust in God or that I believe God is wrong about morality. You could imagine him as the perfect judge, and always being right, however he has free will just as we do. He could choose to do wrong even if it is not in his nature to want to do so. But if something is right or wrong because of what God says then he could make wrong right and right wrong. I have a problem with that idea. I would follow God because of his wisdom and his goodness, I don't think something is wise or good because I follow God. Tim