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Politics : Sharks in the Septic Tank -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: cosmicforce who wrote (7645)	3/6/2001 2:24:47 PM
From: Lane3	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 82486

Religious orthodoxy is a non-linear, destabilizing factor and will take issue with discoveries and advances in biotechnology. The problem is that some of their concerns will be valid, but they will use archaic language to describe these risks and not sound very credible. I don't see that religion brings much to the party unless it undergoes a major intellectual transformation. I don't have anything to add to this. Just wanted to post it again all by itself so the message doesn't get lost. Karen

To: cosmicforce who wrote (7645)	3/6/2001 2:57:58 PM
From: TimF	Respond to of 82486

"Are you talking about the rate of species extinction?" Pretty much everything... economic, social, political, religious, and ecological. We are still on the exponential part of the curve for population and economy. We are at rate limit on some things like food production and sustainability indices. There are some non-linear things that can produce instability on the horizon. I agree with you about species extinction, but I apparently think it is less of a problem then you do. I don't think it is not a problem, or that the problem is not serious or growing, just that it is not leading to a horrible catastrophe. As fast as food production it has been increaseing faster then population growth and I believe it will continue to do so. I'm not sure what exactly you mean by "sustainability indices". I've heard of them but different people might have different ideas about what to information shows something useful about sustainability and how to organize and express this information or even what exactly sustainability means. I would need something more specific to really reply. It should not be a time to retreat to the past (no matter how tempting), but rather look hopefully to the future. All, JMO. Well we atleast agree about something. (Note that doesn't mean I don't think some things where better in the past, or that it would not be good to have some things more like what they were at some time in the past. I agree with the overall point but that doesn't mean I would apply it rigidly in every area.) Tim