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To: Steve Porter who wrote (134216)	3/6/2001 5:24:21 PM
From: kash johal	Respond to of 1573827

Steve, I doubt if things will change for a very long time. But i can see at some point folks will figure out that guns should be gotten rid of. regards, Kash

To: Steve Porter who wrote (134216)	3/6/2001 6:24:04 PM
From: TGPTNDR	Respond to of 1573827

Steve, Re: As for the constitution the right to bare arms was so that citizens of the US could defend the country should the King of England have come knocking. Very wrong. There should only be one entry in that damned thing: All people are created equal, and are to be treated as such. End of story. (IMHO). This was the opinion of the 'Federalists', in general. there is no reason to say it -- that right is obvious. The 'Gun Baners' like to tell all to go read the Federalist papers. They say that 'militia' refers to the national guard. They say that because the Federalist papers do, in fact, support their position. But if you want to know why the ammendments are in the constitution you have to read the Anti-Federalist papers. The Federalists never wanted any ammendments. In point of fact, the reason for the second ammendment was to 'assure a free state' -- One that the government could not take over, by power of force, from an unwilling public. And the ammendments are positionally important. #1 -- We can say what we want. Our religion is beyond federal government. We can meet at our desire. We can say what we don't like about the government without fear of prosecution. #2 -- ... the right of the people ... These were boiling arguments at the time. And within the Address and Reasons of dissent of the Minority of the Convention of Pennsylvania to their Constituents(December 18, 1787) was stated: "And no law shall be passed for disarming the people or any of them, unless for crimes committed, or real danger of public injury from individuals, and as standing armies in the time of peace are dangerous to liberty, they ought not to be kept up: and that the military shall be kept under most subordination to and be governed by the civil powers. This was to get the ammendments into the constitution. Tenchusatsu had it very right when he called the organization of his parents friends a militia. tgptndr