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Politics : Sharks in the Septic Tank -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: cosmicforce who wrote (7719)	3/6/2001 6:38:58 PM
From: TimF	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 82486

Okay. What IS the difference, then? I've asked you before, but it seems to be not much more than a belief. Are you going to tell me where the first corn came from, and if so, it must have been something OTHER than corn beforehand and acquired and used a new set of skills (coded as DNA), ergo, an intelligent act. You might not agree, but the facts are there. Corn did not aquire new skills. It randomly mutated. Most of those mutations where not beneficial. Those that where thrived. Not an inteligent act. Then people manipulated corn and bred it to fit their needs better. The inteligence and skills involved where those of the human farmers not the corn. Inteligent is defined as 1 a : having or indicating a high or satisfactory degree of intelligence and mental capacity b : revealing or reflecting good judgment or sound thought : SKILLFUL or guided or directed by intellect synonyms INTELLIGENT, CLEVER, ALERT, QUICK-WITTED So the act was not inteligent. I'm saying all of this is on a continuum. Rocks, dirt, corn, dogs, cats, cows, chimps, people, and everything else. You are making a binary claim that there are people and everything else. I provide data, you provide empty opinion. If you can't prove it, just say so. I think my proof is pretty good. You haven't proved anything, but in all honesty neither have I. What we have done is play games with definitions. These games might not be useless. They might be interesting or even lead to some sort of understanding but they don't amount to anyone proving anything. Tim