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To: Road Walker who wrote (129434)	3/7/2001 6:04:07 PM
From: carl a. mehr	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 186894

John, <<Is promotion opportunity, at the high end, equal for men and women? I don't think so.>> If we are talking about private business, where making a profit is important, I strongly disagree with you. When I hire a new apartment manager I simply go for the money! Whoever will do the better job for me will be the one hired. Its the bottom line that counts...humble carl

To: Road Walker who wrote (129434)	3/7/2001 8:04:45 PM
From: Ali Chen	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 186894

OT: "I assume you will admit that three times as many women are participating" Could be. But instead of speaking about "excluding factors", you may want to think in terms of "including factors". Do you happen to know what happen to the birth rate in the "participating" category? How about quality of health of the newborns? Or neglected children? How about escalation in school shootings? Explosion of prison population, elderly homes? Maybe it is because many of women "are participating" in wrong activities? There are social roles in a society. Many of them are gender-based, want you or don't. The job of CEO requires serious dedication, 20++ years of education, and long overtime hours. I guess most women elect not to waste their best years on all this unnatural activities. That's why the percentage is so low. More, because of _equal_ abilities, a businesswomen who elected to perform her natural reproductive duties and has to take some time off, will be (statistically) always behind any equally qualified men, just because of time. Very simple. "Is promotion opportunity, at the high end, equal for men and women? I don't think so" And you are right. And not only at "high end" but at any end. In the tough business environment as in the US, which requires minute-per-minute attention, who do you think the business will promote, a pretty woman in her best reproductive age, with very high risk for maternity leave and other child care duties, or a a _equally_ qualified men, without much of this burdens? In closing, I really do not understand why some women here are offended by all this order of nature. They must be fairy unhappy in their lives. Sorry.

To: Road Walker who wrote (129434)	3/7/2001 9:22:58 PM
From: greenspirit	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 186894

Hey John, speaking of clothes. I think Chairmen Ko has found the right answer. :) fastcompany.com "I'll bet it took you 15 minutes to figure out which tie would go with the suit you're wearing," he says, plopping down in a drab conference room just across from his cube. "I can dress in two minutes!" He proudly explains that his socks are all the same color -- as are most of the dress shirts that his wife irons for him and the suits and ties that she hangs in his closet. "I can grab any suit, any pair of socks," he says. "It's foolproof. Hi gang! I hope the changes to the Intel News page have added some value. geocities.com Best, Michael