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To: Skeeter Bug who wrote (119645)	3/7/2001 11:49:19 PM
From: Glenn D. Rudolph	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 164684

i will defer to your real world experience that online orders are more prone to fraud. however, you didn't present evidence that the user of their own card takes on substantially more risk using the net than going to a restaurant. maybe you have it, you just didn't present it. SB, You are correct in that was not trying to say that there is more risk or less risk using one's card on-line versus not on-line. I do believe there is more risk to use a card on-line but using one does not bother me. My point was exactly how you read it. I was saying that those that have obtained "stolen numbers" are more likely to try and use those numbers through mail order or at an on-line site. There is safety in distance for the "crook." Also, the "crook" is not scene so proof necessary to convict one is more difficult when it is an on-line purchase or a mail order purchase compared to making a purchase in person. The reason I believe the use of cards on-line is less secure is I have less faith in many of the on-line firm's management and their security systems put in place. The waitress typically can only steal the number of a card or two compared to the many thousands left on a site.