To: KevRupert who wrote (4077 ) 3/8/2001 2:58:20 AM From: lkj Respond to of 6784 Ad,I refuse to capitulate! I still believe that CE-based PDAs are great devices from a technical and functional standpoint. Its biggest problem is that it's too much ahead of the time. Batteries have not caught up; application developers have not caught up; wireless pipes have not caught up; consumer wallets have not caught up; and most importantly, it is not run by a team with the traditional Microsoft thinking of the 80's. Back in the 80's, Microsoft knew DOS' limitations, but it knew how to compete by upgrading it gradually. There were plenty people complaining about how bad the OS was. Most did not consider it an OS. In the 90's, Microsoft moved into Windows, started copying Mac OS. With price drops in memory and increased processing power, it successful built the Windows OS. Though Windows was still not the best thing out there, it ran on the cheapest hardware. Today's Palm resembled so closely to the 80's Microsoft; it even uses the exact same business strategy. Today's Microsoft is far different from the Microsoft that everyone is used to know. It no longer has the attention it used to pay to its markets, and it lacks the free-spirited thinking that's so vital for any emerging market. Where is that once ultra-powerful, yet super-agile monster? Sure, the DOJ has done a lot to contribute to it, but I also think that there is something about any established company, that the mentality in such a company is harmful to innovative ideas. A lot of good ideas get killed, because they may not do what is best for the overall business. CE had too much baggage tight to the desktop. CE tried to fullfill too many of Gate's dreams. And most importantly, Microsoft forgot its roots. Khan P.S. Don't worry. We are still patiently waiting for you to take that pocket leap.