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To: hmaly who wrote (134321)	3/8/2001 12:12:59 PM
From: d[-_-]b	Respond to of 1575388

hmaly, Some problems with your "solutions".. While killing people is what a lot of guns ultimately do, most guns certainly aren't bought with that in mind. 99.9% of civilian guns don't kill people, ever. 1. Set up a national registry, such that any gun involved in a crime can be identified. Before a gun can be sold, a manufacturer must shoot a bullet and send it in to the registry, so the gun owner can be identified. New barrels cost around a $100 (for most pistols), so bullet blueprinting is pointless to real criminals, not to mention really expensive for the manufacturers. The registered owner of the gun is almost never the one to commit the crime. 2 do not allow cop killer bullets. All bullets can kill cops, vests don't usually stop rifle rounds - only pistol calibers. 3 No plastic guns which can avoid detection, from detectors. Plastic guns must be made with some metal; or it has to be detectable. There is no such thing as a "plastic" gun, all polymer frame guns have steel barrels - which have always been detectable by airport security. This is a media myth, started at the introduction of the Glock. 4 No special grips which do not allow finger prints. Gloves? Here's some more popular garbage. 1. Waiting periods. Perhaps for the first gun, but after that why do I need a cooling off period - I already have lots of guns at home. 2. One pistol/gun per month. Again, I already have lots of guns at home. What about Curio and Relic license holders who collect guns like others collect stamps or coins? Even if we banned all guns in the USA, it would take 400 years for them to all rust away. This of course excludes the fact that smugglers could still bring in guns for criminals. The solution has to be based around the NRA promoting safe storage of guns or congress mandating safer storage. Like many folks have said before - keep the guns out of irresponsible/criminal hands. Millions of people (nearly half of Americans) own guns responsibly today, it's just a few bad apples that demonize everyone else and the guns themselves. The chances of banning guns is near nil, there is that pesky Constitution and all. So our only other option is to treat guns with more care in safe guarding them from irresponsible hands. Dealing realistically with the trouble of America's youth and why they feel violence is a valid form of expression. This whole school shooting phenom is only about 15 years old. We didn't have this type of crime in the past. We should be addressing what changed. This can't be resolved with the usual American quick fix, feel good legislation - this won't be an easy problem to fix. Have you ever visited the NRA web site and read there stuff? I would urge you to read the stuff before you judge the NRA or it's members. nrahq.org nrahq.org nrahq.org nrahq.org

To: hmaly who wrote (134321)	3/8/2001 4:03:31 PM
From: TimF	Respond to of 1575388

3 No plastic guns which can avoid detection, from detectors. Plastic guns must be made with some metal; or it has to be detectable. The supposed "undetectable plastic guns" where no such thing. The body of the gun is plastic but there is a lot of metal inside. 4 No special grips which do not allow finger prints. Anyone who is going to go through the trouble to get special grips can just use gloves. 1. Set up a national registry, such that any gun involved in a crime can be identified. Before a gun can be sold, a manufacturer must shoot a bullet and send it in to the registry, so the gun owner can be identified... If the NRA would just bend on some rules, then they would get some sympathy from the rest of us. Certainly a reasonable compromise can be reached. This wouldn't be compromise by the NRA it would be capitulation. You can argue about the registry being a good thing or not but I doubt the NRA is just going to give up. Tim