To: Terrapin who wrote (9754 ) 3/9/2001 7:02:01 AM From: 49thMIMOMander Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 34857 Lost remote controls. To find the lost phone is easy, one just calls it and listens for it. Bluetooth would make the same possible for remote controls, music devices,etc, really nice. Note that the TV-VCR-HiFi-etc consumer market badly needs something like bluetooth, with the possibilty to hook up the home PC or anything with a larger display, mouse and keyboard, to these devices to make the more difficult menu settings,etc possible to do. But the point is hierarchical, technologies completing each other, with bluetooth being a small, cheap replacement for cables on a wild,free bandwidth. Not anything to run a pofessional system with monthly bills for some real service which some provider actually is responsible for. Btw, as soon as one starts to improve the range of bluetooth one need to introduce better RF parts, AGCs, etc, bye-bye to the $5 target, it becomes a 3G handset. Except for running in a non-regulated, wild frequencyband where everything below 100mW is legal, cordless phones, WLANs, remote controls, wireless mice, keyboards, dimmer controls, radio controlled toys,etc,etc for "private", in-house,in-door use. 100m range would already start including a lot of neighbors,etc... But perfect for running a BLIP station in McDonalds, movie theathers, grocery stores, pubs, etc,etc,etc.. (replacing IrD for computer enviroment cable,etc) For example, one need to compare with the cost, power needed for an Ir remote control, one LED needing 3-5mA to blink and a sensor pretty much the same. Speeding up the data rate of bluetooth makes it into WLAN, so bluetooth is just what it is, nothing more nor less. Ilmarinen P.S. Standardization giving some kind of security is the "key", IMO.