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Politics : Sharks in the Septic Tank -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: Lane3 who wrote (8104)	3/8/2001 7:56:00 PM
From: The Philosopher	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 82486

Happened to be listening to the radio this morning at an unusual time for me, driving back to the office from a meeting, and heard I think Dr Joy Brown on an interesting rant. Basically said that we should not be surprised that our children take to shooting people when they feel victimized. Our national icon is the cowboy, a societal rebel who can't get along with other people but goes off by himself and solves his problems with a gun. The reason people insist on having guns is usually to protect them from bigger and stronger people (including in some cases the government), essentially bullies. So the parents have the guns to protect themselves from bullies; why should we be surprised when their kids, when they get threatened by bullies, take the guns and use them for protection. I haven't put it as well as she did, but the bully defense, including the concept of government as being seen by some as the biggest bully of all, was a twist on the gun discussion that I hadn't come across before.

To: Lane3 who wrote (8104)	4/11/2001 12:00:23 PM
From: Zoltan!	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 82486

>>Primetime Thursday Scheduled: a hidden camera investigation shows how teens react when they come across guns; a boy who accidentally killed his friend while they were playing with a gun. With Diane Sawyer and Charles Gibson. Sounds like a show that promotes ignorance, i.e., the Liberal agenda, which TV News does all too well. Medical Sentinel: Gun Violence Studies Based on Flawed Methods, Political Agendas Most gun violence studies of the past two decades are based on flawed methodology and unduly influenced by political agendas, leading to biased and incorrect conclusions.. Those are the findings of a new two-part paper published in the Spring issue of THE MEDICAL SENTINEL, The Official Journal of the Association of American Physicians and Surgeons, special edition titled "Doctors and Guns (Part II) -- A Failure of the Public Health Model." Author Miguel A. Faria, Jr., M.D., editor-in-chief, makes a compelling case that many studies are prejudiced by the public health establishment’s 1979 stated objective of the total eradication of handguns in the United States. He debunks a number of incorrect, widely-accepted claims promoted by anti-gun interest groups based on tainted studies, instead proving: 1) Women in particular, are NOT in more danger if they carry or own guns; 2) The ease of access to or availability of guns is NOT cause crime; 3) Mass killings would NOT be avoided if guns were not available; 4) Gun violence is NOT the leading accidental cause of death in children. Dr. Faria blames "...those in public health with the proclivity toward the promulgation of preordained research such as the gun and violence research conducted by many investigators with a gun control agenda and disseminated in the medical journals...Much of this information is tainted, result-oriented and based on what can only be characterized as poor science." For example, studies on women and handguns claim that a woman is up to 100 times more likely to be killed by handgun than to fire one for protection. "But they ignore the most important use of firearms -- protection. In 98 percent of cases, all you have to do is brandish a firearm. But these studies don’t take those incidents into account. All they do is count women who have been killed in criminal acts and compare it to the number of women who have used a gun in self-defense." Dr. Faria has recently chastised a number of physician organizations, including the AMA and the American Academy of Pediatrics, that urge doctors to ask patients about gun ownership. "This is playing politics." Dr. Faria concludes, "We have an obligation to reach our conclusions based on objective data and scientific information rather than on ideology, emotionalism, political expediency, or budgetary consideration. "Public health should not be subverted and medical science should not be perverted." aapsonline.org