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To: Elmer who wrote (129621)3/8/2001 10:43:28 PM
From: Scumbria  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 186894
 
Elmer,

Before Coppermine, PIII did not have an L2 cache and Athlon blew it away across the "bored".

Intel is lucky they have SPEC and SandrasSISoftWhatever, to keep P4 from the same fate.

Scumbria



To: Elmer who wrote (129621)3/8/2001 11:01:09 PM
From: Joe NYC  Respond to of 186894
 
Elmer,

Before Coppermine came out, Intel's main chip was Katmai, which was the first chips with SSE, and therefore it was called Piii (Piii is a Pii plus SSE). Both Athlon Classic and Katmai had off chip L2 (512K in a slot configuration). Athlon had Katmai completely outclassed, but the match lasted only short time. Late in Q3, beginning of Q4 Intel came out with Coppermine (Also Piii), which performed approximately as well as Athlon in business benchmarks at the same clock speeds.

As clock speeds approached 1 GHz, Coppermine actually beat Athlon in some tests (at the same clock speeds), since Athlon performance was limited by off-chip L2. But, as you know, the bin splits of Coppermine have been a continuous struggle vs. Athlon.

Now, since Thunderbird, Intel is somewhat outclassed, since Coppermine (which is a good performer) can't get past 1 GHz, and P4 is a poor performer can't match Thunderbird performance even with clock speeds 25% higher than Thunderbird.

Joe