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Politics : Right Wing Extremist Thread -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: Gordon A. Langston who wrote (5955)	3/8/2001 11:35:00 PM
From: GROUND ZERO™	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 59480

More people are killed each year in car accidents than with guns and AIDS combined, why don't we just ban cars? People drown in bath tubs each year, maybe we should ban bath tubs too, or we could just pass a law requiring that all bath tubs be equipped with a faucet lock..... there's just no end to this kind of libologic..... GZ

To: Gordon A. Langston who wrote (5955)	3/9/2001 12:34:16 AM
From: Mr. Whist	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 59480

I was flipping channels and caught the part where the kid found a gun while lifting weights and pointed it at his buddy. His mom was shocked. Re your statement: "I can't think of a strategy that would make guns more attractive to kids than ignorance, glamour, and demonization. Absolutely perfect." You raise a valid point. As an aside, did you find the CBS program balanced or, in your opinion, was it biased, i.e., anti-gun?

To: Gordon A. Langston who wrote (5955)	3/9/2001 3:44:46 AM
From: CVJ	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 59480

Just for the record, i saw the show; it was Primetime Thursday on ABC with Dianne Sawyer. The training that they mentioned I think was learning to shoot at a Range, not the NRA type of total learning course. Nightline is on right now in CA and they have a neuropsychiatrist from UCLA, a female Judge from Arlington VA, and Bill Powrs from the NRA with a substitute host in Ted Koppel's seat hashing over the same show. The judge regurgitated the line about 12 kids a day are shot every day and only one or two are accidents. The NRA guy countered that of the remaining 10 deliberate shootings, half or more are committed during a drug-related crime or a robbery. The rest of the deliberate shootings are gang-related or the result of mentally hampered kids who are picked on or otherwise tormented by their peers, parents, or others. Also, he said that no one mentions the 50 million kids that don't shoot someone accidently or any other way. I probably have mis-construed part of the show's report because I only saw the last 10 minutes of it, including commercials. I only turned it on because I was reading your post about the earlier show with Dianne Sawyer and sure enough Nightline was doing a follow up. Did anyone else see Nightline? It looks like the Ban the Gun crowd is taking a new tack by drumming up public opinion first instead of waiting until another gun control bill is in debate in a House and/or Senate committee hearing. Clever, these whacko's. :) All kidding aside, I can support some kind of parental responsibility for the actions of their child as a result of too easy access to an improperly secured firearm. Mandatory firearm education and training along side the parents might be a way to at least have he possibility of eliminating the excuse that the parents couldn't know what their kid was doing. The common thread in my thinking is that it is not the gun's fault, it is the irresponsible behavior of people. If you could magically remove every firearm from the face of the earth, how long do you think it would take before kids were killing kids with knives and hammers and bricks or poisons or what have you. I think not very long at all. You could cut every kid's hands off and sew them back on when he is 21, but I'll bet there would be a few kids kicking each other to death every day. Chas