To: LPS5 who wrote (2059 ) 3/11/2001 1:24:43 AM From: mr.mark Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 10489 LPS5"He also, in two fights, couldn't knock out - couldn't knock down - a waning Evander Holyfield" i'm surprised that you would bring that up. i presume you're talking about lewis. but you might as well be talking about tyson. am i right?"No; someone gently awaken kindly old George Foreman and remind him that in the day of television, network deals, promotional contracts, etc - it's not as simple as one, or both men, simply "signing" for a bout." are you telling me that you think george foreman is clueless about "television, network deals, promotional contracts"? the man works for HBO today! and he had how many professional fights on TV for promoters? traveled all over the world fighting in how many venues after having signed more contracts and been a part of untold number of negotiations? and you try to dismiss him as "kindly old george" ? george might be old, but your analysis of 1912 and bareknuckles misses the mark. george is very much about modern boxing and promotion, every nuance of sport, in fact. today's sport. that's why he's on the show. if he was as you've portrayed, he'd be in a rocking chair somewhere and guys like jim lampley would not be holding a microphone in front of his face asking for his thoughts. and you've said as much yourself, 5. you've often remarked about foreman's astute observations. don't suddenly ridicule him simply because he thinks your favorite fighter is ducking a fight and is going to lose if he does get it. that doesn't make sense."ROFL - GMAMFB. Foreman saying that makes it so?" naturally, no one saying something makes it so. (no more than you calling mike tyson "a ring monster" makes him one.) but we do tend to quote boxing people here on this thread to add validity to a position. and i wasn't quoting the ring announcer, or a cornerman, i was quoting george foreman. there's considerable ring savvy there, much more than you are caring to admit. :) mark