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To: Jenna who wrote (6302)3/11/2001 3:33:47 PM
From: smchan  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 6445
 
To read this recent tirade against Patricia and me, you'd think you were offering a free, valuable service to the readers of SI. In fact, you are not. You offer a thread for intraday updates on those who pay you tremendous amounts of money for your picks, and you tend to promote your winners here to lure new subscribers. Glad to see you've decided to no longer do that, because there was little here of value for those who were not subscribers to Pristine.

As for the work I do, I also work hard on the markets. See the BTTT thread as conducted by a gifted trader, Dr. Thomas Carr (one of your former banee's): Subject 21685 Just today I posted backtests of scans provided by CatLady, and I'm sure we'll have a watch list for the forthcoming week before the day is out. Feel free to join us if you have anything useful to offer, but keep in mind we ain't paying for it.

Sam



To: Jenna who wrote (6302)3/11/2001 3:36:24 PM
From: JustTradeEm  Respond to of 6445
 
Jenna, this is a serious inquiry ...

Have you ever posted a real time entry on a trade and a real time exit ?

Date ... time .. and price ??

This would surely silence critics; yet, I believe I've never seen one.

Thanks ... JB



To: Jenna who wrote (6302)3/11/2001 3:48:14 PM
From: Don Pueblo  Read Replies (3) | Respond to of 6445
 
This thread is also used to earnings plays so I suggest you work hard on improving your fundamental analysis skills. You need to post a few of your picks and technical reasons behind your choice. i'm sure you can do it. Now you can shine.

Jenna, with all due respect here, might I offer a word or two?

Thanks.

Your posts are rambling and not well thought out, and really antagonistic. Not like you. What I find interesting is that you seem to be baiting the person you addressed your message to...challenging him/her to "improve...fundamental analysis skills" and "post a few of your picks and technical reasons behind your choice". Then there's a challenge to keep this thread as a "Hot Subject".

It seems to me (I'm just a simple country boy) that one of the goals of someone like you should be to help others increase their ability to trade successfully; to improve their own fundamental and technical analysis skills. It seems to me that your interests would be better served to challenge your subscribers to improve these same skills you are challenging your adversaries to demonstrate, yes?

Everyone that invests in the market starts somewhere, but they ought to learn as they go along, so that eventually they can be independently successful, yes? Otherwise, it's just a situation like a psychoanalyst that never lets the patient out of the asylum; the people that pay you will be paying forever and might as well just buy some mutual funds and go about whatever they were doing before they took an interest in the market.

The insinuation that someone should take over your thread and keep it a hot subject suggests to people that don't know you that you might be more concerned with the number of people that are paying you than the number of people that are learning how to be better traders.

Finally, if you are pulling in eighty large a month for subscriptions, I think you might be able to hire a programmer to build a discussion site for your subscribers, eh? If you don't know anyone that can build such a site for you, I will do it for you for $200,000, and it will be done in 60 days or less. By getting so cranky about this whole thing, it gives the appearance that you've got some deal with SI.

Capite?



To: Jenna who wrote (6302)3/11/2001 5:09:37 PM
From: Patricia  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 6445
 
Jenna

Thank you for your response. I am going to take sections of your post and give my response to it. Forgive me if I do not know how to do bold, make colors, etc etc. Never had a desire to learn how to do it here on SI.

You said....

Technical analysis we usually post in the evening. You can also post charts if you like. This thread is also used to earnings plays so I suggest you work hard on improving your fundamental analysis skills. You need to post a few of your picks and technical reasons behind your choice. i'm sure you can do it

My response....

As you know by now, I am not a daytrader, swingtrader, position trader etc.

You said....

Now you can shine.

My response....

I don't have the desire to have the spotlight on me for the reasons you state.

You said....

I'll be watching you and you MUST keep this thread as a hot subject without starting 16 new threads.

My response....

Jenna, there is no need for you to watch me so that this thread can be on a Hot Subject list. I never have had a desire for that really but I did have a concern when the one and only thread I ever started on SI, (you know the one I mean about Tim Luke being taken off of suspension from Silicon Investor,) did not show up on the Hot Subject list this morning as there were already 22 posts there and the the second and third place threads on the Hot Subjects lists had only about 7 to 20 posts on it. Now I do not know how it works actually as I do not follow the Hot Subjects list, but I have to admit that I was excited to see it show up there. You know how us gals can get excited about the littlest things.

You almost must be a mind reader as I was thinking about starting some new threads here. One of them I thought would be called STAINS-PROBLEMS and SOLUTIONS. I was then going to put in my header some information as to how I would like people to post items. Take for example the following forms I was thinking of using.
OIL..PANTS problem
OIL..PANTS solution
GUM..HAIR problem
GUM..HAIR solution
WINE..CARPET problem
WINE..CARPET solution
Now that is how I would like each post to start out so that as one scans the 40 links, they could go directly to what they needed.

Another thread I was thinking of starting was
CHILDREN-SAVING-INVESTING
In my header I was thinking about asking people to post suggestions, ideas and other things that would help the families of children, relatives, by sharing how they handled teaching children and young adults how to control their money so that their children will not be co-dependent on them financially as they grow older. Also about buying what you want and need and then about credit cards and their use to the destruction of some families. Just thought of it recently really.

Then I had this one in mind also
PETS and THEIR HEALTH

You said....

This your task, you worked for it, now prove yourself.

My response....

Not really interested in the task you chose for me and no need to prove myself to anyone.

You said....

I suggest you hurry and get TIm Luke out of cyberjail so the two of you can reign on this thread and show us all your talents, mettle, and ability to focus on stock analysis.

My response....

As you can see, I am attempting, as others are here, to have Tims' suspension lifted. Was he a bad boy? Yes he was for repeatedly asking you a question in the way that Tim does things,but that is Tim. His banning from your thread was your decision just as the banning of other posters was your decision and you are feeling the aftermath of your decisions now. The 30 day suspension was out of line and you know it, just as others know it.

I for one do not care to reign on this thread nor or any other thread. I just want to share my opions, thoughts and feelings and be respected for those by my fellow cyber posters. I don't believe that Tim choses to reign on this thread either, but like you and others on SI, he wants to have the right to his opinions, thoughts and feelings also. Constructive criticism is always good, but it must be present in the right way.

You said....

we are all counting on you. No banning or suspending allowed and no bickering either.

My response....

Please don't anyone count on me for anything but if I feel a wrong is being done, I will most certain jump in, not just my feet, but my whole body, and do what I can to help out. Okay, lol, no banning, suspending allowed and no bivkering either. Isn't that how all of this got started really.

You said....

But now I'm busy, since I have to get back to analysis and prepare for our market opening tomorrow

My response....

Yes, I would imagine you are very busy with your business and being a business owner is something that is very demanding and wearing especially when you have the financial future of people to be responsible for when you have a business such as you do.

You said....

Rest assured I am confident I have placed the Market Gems thread in the best hands, don't let us down. I'll be posting elsewhere

My response....

You need not worry about the Market Gems and please do not think these hands are interesed in what you suggest. I do thank you for the confidence you seem to have in someone who have no knowledge about though.

You said....

Under your command, Patsy, I have NO doubt that this thread in 2 weeks will STILL be a HOT SUBJECT and the most bookmarked thread on SI.

My response....

Actually, I am called Patsy by some of my friends. Do you by chance know any of them? I refuse the command that you so kindly offer. I don't like to be in command of anything bu my own body, spirit and mind.

Now that I replied to you post may I say the following.

I think that many, besides yourself, have learned a few things in the past few days here on these threads. Everyone should let their conscience be their guide in how to deal with people in a way that will be effective to get their opinions etc across and act kindly without hurting folks in any way shape or form. These are only words posted, with no faces behind in most instances, but handling things in a nicer way gets nicer results.

You are a smart lady in many areas in the stock market, and remember that your name and reputation is what you leave this world with. Your talents were given to you by a higher being, and yes, you developed them well. Now it is your decision where you go from here. It might be time for self reflection as I am sure you are hurting as a human being from what has and is taking place here in the Silicon Valley community. No one really likes to be the subject of gossip I don't think. I for one do not know of you personally and never really followed your thread.

Money does buy one so many creature comforts, but it is lonely at the top and if one is respected, respects themselves, then the money is just an added pleasure that makes life even better.

Peace to you Jenna and maybe you will be back with us here in a way that will surprise many. It can be done.

There are posters from long ago that were the center of attraction who handled themselves in inappropiate ways,(to my way of thinking) some of them young and some of them older, and they changed their ways and are truly a better person than they once were from years ago. I wish I could share the names of those who were part of the pumps and dumps here so I could openly tell them how I feel about them as they grew to be better human beings here in our community.

Thank you everyone and this is my opinion and feelings only. Please forgive my spelling errors and my layout of this post and also, be nice in your responses. Let's get a fresh start to just being nice and getting along.

Patricia...but it is okay to call me Patsy ;)