To: Machaon who wrote (131370 ) 3/12/2001 7:01:40 PM From: Thomas A Watson Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 769667 dear dear dear roobie, >>so, a devout and true believer has a wet dream right before he dies, and thusly goes to Hell for an eternity, after a lifetime of abstinence. Some gods really have quite a masochistic sense of humor. you once again miss entirely the concept of free will and choice. The dream you speak off is not a conscious choice. If your thoughts indicated consciousness you would be able to discern the difference. In any case if in the measure of a man's life there is contrition for ones sins then forgiveness is given. But barry knows squat about religion. you say...Since there have been many stories about priests molesting children, I would have to think that the divine pact between many priests and God may not be that divine after all. You argue because a person breaks a rule that the some imaginary pack is or is not. Barry your Don't have a clue. you say,, you are wrong. If God created mankind to have mixed sexuality, as He has surely done, then it matters. Those religions who teach that their god has not created gays, are based on false doctrine. dear dummy barry, show me the doctrine of which you speak, dummy. Show me the above doctrine that you have made up. "Those religions who teach that their god has not created gays" My religion's teaching can be summarized as treating others as one would treat oneself. Only the truly stupid try to make a general point about a doctrine by citing one specific breaking of the doctrine as an example. Shallow simplistic stupid minds. One says what one believes and lives that way or not. How any one person lives may say what that person really believes but does not have any bearing on the validity of any belief or concept that the person expresses. If you ever get what I just said then you will stop posting your stupid drivel. Look at what mr bill says he believes in and what he does. tom watson tosiwmee