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To: Nick who wrote (33230)3/13/2001 10:56:22 AM
From: Venkie  Respond to of 65232
 
someday it will be a short freenzy



To: Nick who wrote (33230)3/13/2001 11:00:01 AM
From: stockman_scott  Read Replies (3) | Respond to of 65232
 
Nick: KREM with a P/E over 80 is amazing...

It illustrates how out of line some valuations are. Here are comments from a recent article on the situation...

<<...The last year has been a bust for tech stocks and profits but a boon for some decidedly non-high-tech ones.

For example, $5,000 invested in doughnut-shop operator Krispy Kreme Doughnuts Inc. (NASDAQ:KREM) at their closing price of $37 a share on April 5, 2000, after their first day trading following the company's initial public offering that day, is now worth $9,932.

On the other hand, that same $5,000 invested in Oracle Corp. (NASDAQ:ORCL), the fast-growing purveyor of database software and the world's No. 2 software company at its split-adjusted closing price of $39-1/8 a year ago April 5, would now be worth $2,173 -- a loss of 57 percent.

"That is crazy -- it is absolutely insane," said Epoch Partners analyst Mark Verbeck, who covers software companies, of the chasm in performance between the two stocks. "It just goes to show you.">>

Good Luck Investing...=)

Best Regards,

Scott



To: Nick who wrote (33230)3/13/2001 11:26:25 AM
From: Cactus Jack  Respond to of 65232
 
Nick,

KREM unlocks 9.3 million shares on April 4, which represents over 70% of all shares outstanding and is over 300% of the current float. Major dilution ahead. I'm short; can't see this one staying with a PE in the 70s during tax selling (pre-April 15) with so many shares hitting the market; if I were an insider looking at the markets today, I'd be counting the days to guarantee at least some of my profits. Here is the link:

unlockdates.com

Having said that, the donuts are fantastic and the company appears to be solid. I just think there is a bit to be made on the short side in the next couple of months.

EDIT: just read your posted article re: lockup expiration, and wasn't aware of the recent secondary (but did know about the split and earnings announcement). Doesn't change my position.

Good luck.

jpgill



To: Nick who wrote (33230)3/13/2001 11:39:20 AM
From: horsegirl48  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 65232
 
I have been wanting to short krem for months now, and it just keeps going up which shows the insanity of this market. Walking Shadow and I had a discussion about Krem, and the shorts r all over it,
HG48