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Politics : Sharks in the Septic Tank -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?


To: Lane3 who wrote (8281)3/13/2001 5:51:45 PM
From: TimF  Respond to of 82486
 
The communist ideal was that the state would eventually "wither away." Didn't work that way. I don't think it could ever work that way, human nature being human nature, but I don't see in it the special inherent evil that I see in a philosophy that would weed out its own people out of pathological racism.

Yes the state would supposedly wither away after it imposed its will, and beat down or "reducated", all of those that opposed it, and stole from all owners of private property. Is it more evil to kill me because you hate my race or religon then because you want to steal from me or impose your ideology on me? Perhaps, I'm not certain.

I understand that the Nazis didn't consider Jews to be their own people, but they were still living amongst the chosen people under the supposed protection of the German government. That seems like an especially nasty business to me.

The kulacks were under the supposed protection of the Soviet government before they where "liquidated". Its killing someone based on their class status or occupation rather then their religion or ethnic background but again I'm not sure that there is an important moral difference here.
It has been said that the Soviet killings where well intentioned, but I don't think that justifies them, and in any case Hitler probably saw his intentions "purifing the German race" or some nonsense like that) to be positive. I'm just glad both Hitler and Stalin are gone and that no one quite as bad as either is in charge of any major nation today. You still have a communist dictatorship in China but I wouldn't say that are currently as bad as Stalin, or Mao at their worst. All of the major powers besides China are democratic except perhaps Russia which might be categorized as "semi-democratic". (Then again Hitler was elected, so I guess democracy isn't total proof against such horrible governments).

Tim