To: The Prophet who wrote (67557 ) 3/13/2001 4:15:32 PM From: Bilow Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 93625 Hi The Prophet; About court ordered royalties: III. Royalty Payments B. The royalty rate generally is set at whatever the market will bear. 1. The following factors have been considered by licensors in setting the royalty base. a. The strength of the patent, b. Availability of competing technology, c. The cost to develop the invention, d. The savings or profit to be realized, e. The cost of the suit, f. Nature of license (exclusivity, etc.), g. Negotiation costs, h. Cost of assembling concomitant technical information for licensee, I. Cost of serving the agreement (start up assistance, etc.), and j. Investment required by licensee. 2. From the commercial viewpoint, there are three principle considerations: a. Royalty patterns in the industry, b. Experience with the product of related product, c. Calculation of a reasonable share of anticipated profits. C. Royalty Base 3. When a court becomes involved in setting royalty rates, it generally uses a range of 2-10% of gross sales. a. Courts attempt to arrive at a reasonable royalty by calculating what a reasonable and prudent licensee will pay a reasonable and prudent licensor. b. An existing license will be given great weight, however. c. When profits are considered, they are used as a factor to determine what a willing licensee will pay. A rule of thumb is 1/4 to 1/3 of the anticipated profits from the use of an invention as appropriate royalty.unc.edu Of the above, we should note the following bearish comments:B.1.a) The strength of the Rambus patents is sufficiently highly debatable that it is now in court. Also note that the trade press has repeatedly suggested that Rambus should not be in a position to collect on these patents. B.1.b) There are many available competing techniques available. For instance, the CAS latency can be done with a wire. B.1.c) Rambus' cost to develop SDRAM and DDR together add up to zero. The cost to develop RDRAM, at the time that JEDEC decided on SDRAM, was nominal. B.1.d) Savings or profit is only dependent on the fact of the existence of the JEDEC standards. B.1.e) Rambus has been saying that this suit isn't going to be terribly costly. B.1.f) License isn't exclusive, and so would be cheaper. B.1.g) Compared to any percentage, negotiation costs are negligible. B.1.h) same B.1.i) same B.1.j) Licensee has already invested a lot of money, therefore making the patent value less. (The most valuable patent would be one that didn't require money to put into production.) B.2.a) Royalty patterns in the industry are minuscule. Look at Mosaid, for instance, who have many more patents than Rambus. B.2.b) What the heck does this mean? But there are also the following bullish comments: C.3) 2-10% would be very good for RMBS. C.3.a) Huh? C.3.b) Existing licensees are paying 1-3% or whatever. C.3.c) It is very hard to figure out what "anticipated profits" are for the DRAM industry. Certainly they're low right now. Like I've said many times before, if Rambus can collect the royalties they are asking from the memory industry (and therefore very likely every company that makes an SDRAM controller), the stock is way undervalued at the current price. -- Carl P.S. Re the comment that I am a communist. Yeah, but the only reason I joined the communist party was so that I could sleep with your mother. No offense, of course.